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		<title>Blank Page Heroine</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/11/17/blank-page-heroine/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, the brilliant Sarah Rees Brennan talked about her love of romance and reviewed a few in her inimitable style.1 She mentioned in passing her least favourite kind of heroine:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, the brilliant Sarah Rees Brennan talked about her <a href="http://sarahtales.livejournal.com/154465.html">love of romance</a> and reviewed a few in her inimitable style.<sup>1</sup> She mentioned in passing her least favourite kind of heroine:</p>
<blockquote><p>I truly hate the Blank Page Heroine. She is in a lot of books&#8212;I don&#8217;t mean to pick on romance, because sadly I have seen her in every genre, including my own&#8212;and sometimes she seems to be there as a match for the hero who won&#8217;t bother him with things like &#8216;hobbies&#8217; and &#8216;opinions.&#8217; Sometimes she is carefully featureless (still missing those pesky hobbies and opinions) so that, apparently, the reader can identify with her and slot their own personalities onto a blank page. As I don&#8217;t identify with blank pages, I find the whole business disturbing.</p></blockquote>
<p>I had always thought of this as The Girlfriend. She is in many many many Hollywood movies and is absolutely interchangeable in them. Because it&#8217;s the male characters who are important in movies like . . . Nah. I won&#8217;t name them so the comments don&#8217;t become an argument about how I am wrong and So &#038; So movie is not like that and blah blah blah. The girl, if she&#8217;s there at all, is merely decoration and a reward for the hero. She is entirely without personality. And thus completely without interest for me, which is why I do not like such movies.</p>
<p>I was quite shocked to find the same character in books written by women. I&#8217;d become convinced that she was a straight male fantasy. Surely women know that we women have opinions and hobbies and an internal life? Why would they write a female character without dimensions? It&#8217;s still a mystery. I adore Sarah Rees Brennan&#8217;s name for them: Blank Page Heroine. That&#8217;s exactly it.  There&#8217;s no there there. Just a blankness. A very sad making blankness. Bad enough that we women are all too often told to shut up and not take up space in real life, but for it to happen in our escapist literature too? Aaargh!</p>
<p>And what kind of a lesson does Blank Page Heroine Love teach? If the love between two people involves one of them giving up everything for the other one including their personality, their own likes and desires and needs, then that love is not going to last long or end well. Trust me, I have seen it happen. If you have to suppress who you are in order for your relationship to last<sup>2</sup> then that relationship does not deserve to last. It&#8217;s not good for you or the person you love.</p>
<p>But thankfully, as SRB points out, there have been many wonderful romances of late.<sup>3</sup> Heroines who exist for many reasons other than to find the love of that one true hero.<sup>4</sup> My favourite recent romance writer is Sherry Thomas, who not only writes wonderfully believable men and women but some of them are even older than 25! Bless! Go check out <a href="http://sarahtales.livejournal.com/154465.html">SRB&#8217;s post</a> for more romance recommendations.</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_6859" class="footnote">Well, I could not imitate it.</li><li id="footnote_1_6859" class="footnote">Unless, like Dexter, you happen to be a serial killer.</li><li id="footnote_2_6859" class="footnote">And always. Austen&#8217;s heroines aren&#8217;t exactly blank pages.</li><li id="footnote_3_6859" class="footnote">Why some of them are even there for the love of another heroine!</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Invisible Audiences? Invisible to Whom?</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/19/invisible-audiences-invisible-to-whom/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 04:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the discoveries I made while doing research for my PhD thesis, which ultimately became <i>The Battle of the Sexes in Science Fiction</i>, was that women had always read and written science fiction. I found <a href="http://justinelarbalestier.com/books/battle/letters/">letters to science fiction magazines from women</a> as early as the late 1920s, a short story contest winner in 1927.<sup>1</sup> This was contrary to so many people&#8217;s views that there were no women engaged with science fiction until the 1950s. (Though some said not till the 1960s.) There were also a few women who attended science fiction conventions from the very beginning.</p>
<p>As I read through fanzines and science fiction magazines from the 1920s onwards, I found many article dismissing these women, which is largely what <i>Battle of the Sexes</i> is about:</p>
<blockquote><p>The letters were from bored housewives with nothing else to do, the stories by women were crap and only published cause it was like a dog walking on its hind legs, and the women at conventions were only there because their boyfriend/husband dragged them along. And look how few in numbers! See? There are no women in science fiction!<sup>2</sup></p></blockquote>
<p>What those arguments have always failed to recognise is that the majority of readers/viewers of anything are not active in their engagement with a genre/show. Vastly more people were reading science fiction magazines than ever wrote a letter to the editor of an sf magazine or fanzine or went to a con. There are always huge numbers of people who are avid readers/viewers who are never counted by the people who are active in their engagement so those active fans start to assume that they are the centre of their genre and no one else exists.</p>
<p>Throughout my time as a doctoral student (which was pre-internet) I would meet people I never would have pegged as science fiction fans, who upon hearing of my research would start reminiscing about the sf magazines they read as a kid, of the Heinlein/Le Guin/McCaffrey books they adored, and their love affair with <em>Star Trek</em>/<em>Doctor Who</em>/<em>Blake&#8217;s Seven</em>. Most of these people had never heard of fandom, had no idea there were conventions etc. They just loved science fiction on their lonesome. I met others who had heard of it but there was no way they would have attended a con because back then it was all white boys and they knew they wouldn&#8217;t fit in.</p>
<p>Science fiction cons have been white and male for most of their existence. I remember the first con I went to more than a decade ago. I was terrified. It was mostly male. And, yes, I was sexually harassed. (A very common experience for women at cons.) But I also met many wonderful people who have remained friends to this day and before too long I discovered WisCon, the feminist convention, which was a much more hospitable place for me.<sup>3</sup></p>
<p>There has long been speculation about why there are so few non-white fans of the genre. I have always been convinced, based on my research, that it&#8217;s hard to know how big that readership is. If as a woman in the 1990s I felt uncomfortable walking into a convention that was about 30% female how much more uncomfortable would someone not white feeling walking into a space that was 99% white?</p>
<p>Over at <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/deadbrowalking/">Deadbrowalking: the People of Color Deathwatch</a> there&#8217;s a <a href="http://community.livejournal.com/deadbrowalking/357066.html">wild unicorn check in</a> where people of colour who read/watch genre and love it are putting up their hands. So far there have been more than 900 comments. And many of the people talk about their parents&#8217; love of science fiction and their grandparents too. Those 900 plus declarations are just the tip of the iceberg. There are many more fans out there who don&#8217;t own computers, or if they do, have no idea that Deadbrowalking exists.</p>
<p>As I read through the pages and pages of comments over there I couldn&#8217;t help thinking about all the &#8220;Science Fiction is Dying&#8221; panels at cons  I&#8217;ve seen over the years. I&#8217;ve always been bewildered by that claim and the prevalence of those panels. But it wasn&#8217;t until I read all the wild unicorn comments that I realised what those panels are really about. They&#8217;re talking about <em>their</em> brand of science fiction: the stuff that began in the late 1920s and and has been largely white, male, and all too frequently misogynist and racist. They&#8217;re not talking about the other streams that were growing up in Japan and China and Europe and, yes, the USA and elsewhere. They&#8217;re not talking about feminist science fiction or manga or anime or YA. None of that counts to them.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re saying that the white, male-dominated science fiction of boys with their hard science toys is dying. </p>
<p>And, you know what? I won&#8217;t weep if they&#8217;re right.</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_4238" class="footnote">Which is essentially when USian science fiction began.</li><li id="footnote_1_4238" class="footnote">Not an actual quote. Just my paraphrase.</li><li id="footnote_2_4238" class="footnote">Though I know of a few cases of women being harassed there too.</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Because you&#8217;re a woman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is just me, but if I was selected for an honour solely because I&#8217;m a woman, I would be less than thrilled. In fact, I was once asked to contribute to an anthology because they didn&#8217;t have enough stories by women. I said no thanks.</p>
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		<title>Maureen Dowd Makes Me Cranky</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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I am cranky. Two main things are contributing to this state.
1. As some of you may have noticed my site has been down on and off today. Grrr. Also for the last two days my email has been mostly down. Double Grr. 
2. Maureen Dowd.
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<p>I am cranky. Two main things are contributing to this state.</p>
<p>1. As some of you may have noticed my site has been down on and off today. Grrr. Also for the last two days my email has been mostly down. Double Grr. </p>
<p>2. Maureen Dowd.</p>
<p>To try and uncranky myself I sat down to read today&#8217;s <i>New York Times</i>. I carefully skipped the newsy parts cause they often cause crankiness to multiply. Unfortunately, the first thing I read was Maureen Dowd&#8217;s <a href="http://select.nytimes.com/2007/02/10/opinion/10dowd.html?_r=1&#038;oref=slogin">breathtakingly stupid column about chicklit</a>.</p>
<p>Bloody hell! What a morass of ignorance and misinformation. On the one hand, she&#8217;s trying to say that all chick lit sucks. On the other, she talks about books like Sylvia Plath&#8217;s <i>The Belljar</i> and Shakespeare&#8217;s <i>Romeo and Juliet</i> being rebranded in pink. Presumably, she does not think those texts are worthless.</p>
<p>As it happens many books are billed as chicklit that are not, and some that are, well, they&#8217;re very bloody good (<i>Love Walked In</i> for instance).</p>
<p>Dowd starts by talking about chicklit&#8217;s invasion of the serious adult literature shelves (Heels over Hemingway! Run for the hills!). But the only text she quotes is a young adult title, <i>Angus, Thongs and Full-Frontal Snogging</i>. Of course it sounds young! Its protag is a teenager! It was written for the twelve years old and up market. It&#8217;s also bloody funny. But Dowd is too pure of mind to have noticed. Sloppy journalism much?</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s this:</p>
<blockquote><p>Giving the books an even more interchangeable feeling is the bacholerette party of log-rolling blurbs by chick-lit authors. Jennifer <i>Good in Bed</i> Weiner blurbs Sarah Mlynowski&#8217;s <i>Me vs Me</i> and Karen McCullah Lutz&#8217;s <i>The Bachelorette Party</i>. Lauren Weisberger blurbs Emily <i>Something Borrowed</i> Giffin.</p></blockquote>
<p>Stop the bleeding presses. Someone in the same genre is blurbing someone else in the same genre? Oh. My. God. It must be stopped.</p>
<p>But wait! Here is the back of a Peter Carey book. He is blurbed by Salman Rushdie. They both write mainstream literature that gets reviewed and lauded by the <i>NYT</i>. They know each other! Another freaking conspiracy.</p>
<p>Hmm, I wonder why the publishing industry would do something so bizarre as have people in the same genre blurb each other? Could it be because folks who&#8217;ve read Jennifer Weiner are the folks likely to enjoy Sarah Mlynowski? And those who love Salman Rushdie may well get into Peter Carey? No, that can&#8217;t be it.</p>
<p>Here are my questions:</p>
<p>Why the endless deriding of this genre? Why aren&#8217;t there people getting het up about the pernicious influence of techno thrillers? Some of those are shockingly written, but I&#8217;ve never seen a columnist lose any sleep over how well those books sell, or the fact that they&#8217;re mostly written and read by men. In all genres there are many badly written books. Including mainstream literature. What makes chicklit so evil?</p>
<p>Also how come it counts as journalism to walk around a bookshop mouthing off ignorantly about a genre you know nothing about, grabbing three dozen of them to take home, flip through, and then mock in your newspaper column?</p>
<p>Why did it not occur to Dowd to interview some of the writers, editors, publishers and consumers of the genre? Or to ask them what their faves are and why? Too much hard work for you, Ms Dowd?</p>
<p>Why does Dowd not explain exactly what&#8217;s wrong with the existence of chicklit? I mean, seriously, what is the point of her column? Why is she so threatened by the colour pink?</p>
<p>Okay, that didn&#8217;t help. I&#8217;m still cranky.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be stomping off out of your way now.</p>
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		<title>Feminist Utopia panel</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2006/05/25/feminist-utopia-panel/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 15:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As me, Nalo Hopkinson, Scott and Ellen Klages walked from our hotel to the Wisconsin Historical Society Auditorium the heavens opened up. Best. Storm. Ever.
Well, except for the little detail that we were on our way to give a panel and wound up soaked through and knowing that our audience had been at least halved. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As me, <a href="http://nalohopkinson.blogspot.com/">Nalo Hopkinson</a>, <a href="http://scottwesterfeld.com/blog/">Scott</a> and <a href="http://www.tachyonpublications.com/author/Ellen_Klages.html?Session_ID=new&#038;Reference_Page=/authors.html">Ellen Klages</a> walked from our hotel to the Wisconsin Historical Society Auditorium the heavens opened up. Best. Storm. Ever.</p>
<p>Well, except for the little detail that we were on our way to give a panel and wound up soaked through and knowing that our audience had been at least halved. Thank you so much to the eighty or so brave, brave souls who made it.</p>
<p>I think it went well, but I was wet, jet-lagged and concentrating hard on moderating so I can&#8217;t be sure. Go read <a href="http://truepenny.livejournal.com/438313.html">Sarah Monette&#8217;s excellent account</a>.</p>
<p>I can say that I was dead pleased that we didn&#8217;t just pat ourselves on the back and talk about how fabulous WisCon is (which it is), but also addressed some of the tensions around race and class that aren&#8217;t talked about nearly enough. And, indeed, once again we managed to raise the issue of class and then back the hell away from it. Cause, you know, scary!</p>
<p>And now on with the rest of <a href="http://technorati.com/tag/wiscon">WisCon</a>!</p>
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		<title>Free event in Madison, Wisconsin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 09:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tomorrow night I&#8217;ll be moderating the following event in Madison, Wisconsin.

If you&#8217;re a Madisonian or you&#8217;re in town early for WisCon, we&#8217;d love to see you! It should be loads of fun.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomorrow night I&#8217;ll be moderating the following event in Madison, Wisconsin.</p>
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<p>If you&#8217;re a Madisonian or you&#8217;re in town early for WisCon, we&#8217;d love to see you! It should be loads of fun.</p>
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		<title>In praise of WisCon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 16:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In less than two weeks (gulp) me and Scott will be attending WisCon the feminist science fiction convention in Madison, Wisconsin. I&#8217;ve been attending since 1996, I&#8217;ve read there, been on panels, been a part of the auction (mostly as a spender of money, but once as one of Ellen Klages&#8217; lovely assistants) and have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In less than two weeks (gulp) me and Scott will be attending <a href="http://www.wiscon.info/">WisCon</a> the feminist science fiction convention in Madison, Wisconsin. I&#8217;ve been attending since 1996, I&#8217;ve read there, been on panels, been a part of the auction (mostly as a spender of money, but once as one of Ellen Klages&#8217; lovely assistants) and have worked as part of the organising committee&#8212; I&#8217;m biased.</p>
<p>And yet strangely I&#8217;ve come to take it for granted. So much so that my not being able to attend next year (prior engagement to be part of something awesome in Australia) didn&#8217;t really phase me. Then I read Sheree Thomas&#8217;s <a href="http://blackpotmojo.blogspot.com/2006/05/wiscon-30-or-bust.html">eloquent explanation</a> of why she loves WisCon and all of a sudden I&#8217;m miserable that I&#8217;m going to be missing next year&#8217;s WisCon even as I get ready for this year&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Sheree loves it so much she&#8217;s urging people to attend:</p>
<ul>What I really want to do is encourage you to check out WISCON, because if you don&#8217;t never go to but ONE science fiction conference in your big, beautiful life, then let it be, let it be WISCON 30, because this year is going to be amazing.WisCon takes place annually in downtown Madison, WI over Memorial Day weekend (May 25-30) at the Concourse Hotel. It&#8217;s considered &#8220;The World&#8217;s Leading Feminist Science Fiction Convention,&#8221; and is attended by a lot of cool and interesting women and yes, men (got to say that because some folk see &#8216;feminist&#8217; and read &#8216;man hata&#8217; and &#8216;crazy&#8217;) . Now, I ain&#8217;t saying there ain&#8217;t no crazy folk there (LOL!), I&#8217;m just saying that all kinda folk flow through and it is a celebration of science fiction work. This year, they invited back their previous Guest of Honors, including Samuel R. Delany, Ursula K. Le Guin, Nalo Hopkinson, Jane Yolen, Pat Murphy, Pamela Sargent, Vonda McIntyre, chile, I could go on and on.</p>
<p>And they got damned good child care, too! For real, with Legos and robots n&#8217; shit! I mean really, what kinda feminist gathering would it be without an excellent program track for young readers?</ul>
<p>The bad news is that this year&#8217;s WisCon is sold out. That&#8217;s right, you can put your name on <a href="http://www.wiscon.info/registration.php">the waiting list</a>, but unless there&#8217;s a whole slew of last-minute dropouts you won&#8217;t be attending. But don&#8217;t let that stop you from going to next year&#8217;s. I&#8217;ve heard a little rumour about who the guests of honour will be and, well, let me tell you, stellar is the word.</p>
<p>This year&#8217;s is going to be unbelievablely fabulous. I was at WisCon 20 and I&#8217;ll never forget it. That weekend changed my life. But even the worst WisCon is a million times better than any other convention or conference I&#8217;ve ever been to. If  you have any interest in genre or feminism or exploring new and old ideas WisCon is the place for you.</p>
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		<title>My WisCon schedule</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is where you&#8217;ll find me at WisCon (and just before):
&#8220;A Feminist Utopia in Madison? Global Communities, Science Fiction and Women&#8221;
Wednesday 24 May, 2006, 7:30 pm
Wisconsin Historical Society Auditorium, 816 State Street.
Madison, Wisconsin, USA
Open to the public, free of charge
Panelists:  Elizabeth Bear, Karen Joy Fowler, Nalo Hopkinson, Justine Larbalestier (moderator), Meghan McCarron
Food in SF&#038;F [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is where you&#8217;ll find me at WisCon (and just before):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wiscon.info/specialevents.php">&#8220;A Feminist Utopia in Madison? Global Communities, Science Fiction and Women&#8221;</a><br />
Wednesday 24 May, 2006, 7:30 pm<br />
Wisconsin Historical Society Auditorium, 816 State Street.<br />
Madison, Wisconsin, USA<br />
Open to the public, free of charge<br />
Panelists:  <a href="http://www.elizabethbear.com/">Elizabeth Bear</a>, <a href="http://www.sfwa.org/members/Fowler/">Karen Joy Fowler</a>, <a href="http://www.sff.net/people/nalo/">Nalo Hopkinson</a>, Justine Larbalestier (moderator), <a href="http://megmccarron.livejournal.com/">Meghan McCarron</a></p>
<p>Food in SF&#038;F (Reading SF&#038;F)<br />
Saturday, 1:00-2:15 p.m. Saturday, 1:00-2:15 p.m.<br />
Melissa Scott, Justine Larbalestier, Janet Lafler, Mary Kay Kare, Nora Jemison</p>
<p>Literary History of Women in Science Fiction. (Feminism, Sex, and Gender)<br />
Saturday, 2:30-3:45 p.m. Saturday, 2:30-3:45 p.m.<br />
Pamela Sargent, Justine Larbalestier, Andrea D. Hairston, Janice Marie Bogstad, Brian Attebery</p>
<p>Banned &#038; Challenged Books (Reading SF&#038;F)<br />
Saturday, 9:00-10:15 p.m. Saturday, 9:00-10:15 p.m.<br />
Deborah Stone, Veronica L. Schanoes, Anne Marie Redalen Fraser, Justine Larbalestier, Kira Franz</p>
<p>The Death of the Panel (Reading SF&#038;F)<br />
Sunday, 2:30-3:45 p.m. Sunday, 2:30-3:45 p.m.<br />
Scott Westerfeld, Justine Larbalestier, Paul Kincaid, Gwenda Bond, Christopher &#8220;i just sold my first novel&#8221; Barzak, Lenny Bailes</p>
<p>I think these all look fabulous&#8212;I get to talk about feminism, food, Young Adult lit, and death&#8212;what could be better? I can&#8217;t wait.</p>
<p><img src="http://justinelarbalestier.com/Daughters/images/c_cover2.jpg" /></p>
<p>I&#8217;m especially excited cause <a href="http://www.justinelarbalestier.com/Daughters/"><em>Daughters of Earth</em></a> will definitely be out. In fact I&#8217;m hearing rumours it may already be available. Has anyone seen it in shops in the US of A yet?</p>
<p>See you all in Madison! It&#8217;s going to be the best WisCon yet. Samuel R. Delany! Ursula K. Le Guin! Jane Yolen! Kate Wilhelm! Oh my Elvis! I must lie down now to recover.</p>
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		<title>Self Promotion</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 06:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How&#8217;s about that for a post title to put everyone off?
I&#8217;ve been hearing some complaints about writers who are too self promotery, who go on panels at cons waving their book around, saying,&#8221;Look at me! Look at me! I&#8217;m a published writer! Buy my book!&#8221; There are also complaints about certain writers&#8217; blogs which only [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How&#8217;s about that for a post title to put everyone off?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been hearing some complaints about writers who are too self promotery, who go on panels at cons waving their book around, saying,&#8221;Look at me! Look at me! I&#8217;m a published writer! Buy my book!&#8221; There are also complaints about certain writers&#8217; blogs which only talk about their books and their latest publishing news with links that only lead to places that sell their books. As well as whinges about the folks who relentlessly campaign for awards.</p>
<p>Accusations of being too self promotery make me a bit jittery. Promoting your books is part of a writer&#8217;s job. If no one knows the book exists how is it going to sell? A writer should be out there lining up bookshop appearances, sending out postcards/business cards/tshoshkas of some kind. You should be attending cons/trade shows/schools/libraries or whatever will help get the word out about your work. It may not have that much effect (no one really knows how to get word of mouth going<sup>1</sup>), but it might, and besides, for your own peace of mind it helps to know that you&#8217;re doing something. No one cares how well your book does as much you what wrote it.  Not your agent, your editor or your publicist. It seems mighty unfair to complain about a writer doing what they can to secure their livelihood.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sensitive about such accusations because I was accused of it. My promotion of my first book (<a href="http://justinelarbalestier.com/Battle/index.htm">a non-fiction tome</a>) at <a href="http://www.wiscon.info/index.php">WisCon </a> some years back got up some people&#8217;s noses. But it was WisCon: <em>the</em> feminist science fiction convention, the only place in the world where my book on, yes, feminist science fiction had a real shot at selling lots of copies. So I kind of overdid the whole &#8220;look at me! I have a book&#8221; thing. Yes, I did wave around my book on panels and trumpet its availability in the dealers&#8217; room.  I&#8217;m still sort of embarrassed, but also defensive about it. It was my first book! I was excited! And you know what? Every copy of the book sold out and my publisher was pleased with me. I was doing my job. I&#8217;m pretty sure if I hadn&#8217;t done what I could to promote the book not as many copies would have sold.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I have seen writers relentlessly promoting themselves at various gatherings. (Hence my embarrassment when I think back on that WisCon.) Drowning out everyone else on their panels, continually using their own work as an example when it&#8217;s only tangentally relevant. On one occasion I was accosted by a writer at a party who interrupted my conversation with someone else to tell me all about his book, ply me with postcards of it, and information on how I could buy it. Not a good look.</p>
<p>Obviously a balance needs to be struck. Pissing people off is not actually very self promotery. Neither is being rude. (And really <a href="http://alg.livejournal.com/72895.html">being polite</a> should be the ground rule for all interactions.) But I wish the folks who complain about over-the-top self promotion would cut some slack to first- or second-time authors. You know, the way most of us make allowances for our friends with their brand new baby, who can&#8217;t shut up about it, and endlessly show you photos. Yes, it&#8217;s boring, but in most cases it will pass.</p>
<p>My third book is about to come out, but I&#8217;m too busy working on the fourth to put as much energy into promoting it as I did my first and second books. I&#8217;m no longer an enthusiastic first-time author. I&#8217;m dead proud of it and I&#8217;ll be doing signings and readings to promote it. But I will not be bouncing up and down, thrusting postcards into everyone&#8217;s hands, and talking it up at every opportunity. Been there, done that.</p>
<p>Do I not think this book is as good as my others? <em>Magic Lessons</em> is the best book I&#8217;ve published thus far. But I&#8217;m older and wiser and less energetic. I guess I&#8217;m well on my way to being a hardened old pro.</p>
<p>NYC, 12:12PM, 12 March 2006</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_233" class="footnote">I&#8217;m convinced that the most useful thing you can do to promote your work is get copies into the hands of the opinion makers in your genre. The people who write the most read and discussed blogs, the librarians and booksellers who love to push their favourite titles. How  to do that is a whole other question, but, obviously, writing the very best books you can is essential! Getting out and meeting said opinion makers comes in second.</li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>A Request: Recent Feminist Stories (updated)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks back I was asking about who the feminist sf writers are now. I had an ulterior motive: I&#8217;d just been asked to put together a panel for Madison&#8217;s Centre for the Humanities &#8220;Rooted Cosmopolitans&#8221; lecture series (if like me, you are Australian, you will find that title rather amusing). That panel is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks back I was asking about who the feminist sf writers are now. I had an ulterior motive: I&#8217;d just been asked to put together <a href="http://www.wiscon.info/specialevents.php">a panel</a> for Madison&#8217;s <a href="http://www.humanities.wisc.edu/about/">Centre for the Humanities</a> <a href="http://www.humanities.wisc.edu/programs/rooted.html">&#8220;Rooted Cosmopolitans&#8221;</a> lecture series (if like me, you are Australian, you will find that title rather amusing). That panel is now a go:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wiscon.info/specialevents.php">&#8220;A Feminist Utopia in Madison? Global Communities, Science Fiction and Women&#8221;</a><br />
24 May, 2006, 7:30 pm<br />
Wisconsin Historical Society Auditorium, 816 State Street.<br />
Madison, Wisconsin, USA<br />
Open to the public, free of charge<br />
Panelists:  <a href="http://www.elizabethbear.com/">Elizabeth Bear</a>, <a href="http://www.sfwa.org/members/Fowler/">Karen Joy Fowler</a>, <a href="http://www.sff.net/people/nalo/">Nalo Hopkinson</a>, Justine Larbalestier (moderator), <a href="http://megmccarron.livejournal.com/">Meghan McCarron</a></p>
<p>I hope some of you can come to cheer us on (or heckle, whatever you prefer).</p>
<p>We&#8217;d like to refer to two stories during the panel: one older and one more recent. And we&#8217;d like to let everyone know before the panel what those stories are so they&#8217;ll have time to read them. The older story will prolly be <a href="http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/russ/russ1.html">Joanna Russ&#8217; &#8220;When It Changed&#8221;</a>. But we&#8217;re not sure about a more recent story. So:</p>
<ul>What&#8217;s the best recent feminist short story you&#8217;ve read?</ul>
<p>Recent as in published this century and preferably this year or last. Even more points if you come up with a story that&#8217;s available online, which will make it easier for more people to be able to read it. We&#8217;re not considering stories written by the esteemed panellists.</p>
<p>Update: There will be a long list of essential feminist sf reading that will be a hand out at the panel. So if you have suggestions for that, fire away. If you can think of less obvious ones that would be extra helpful. You can rest assured that Suzy McKee Charnas, Ursula Le Guin and Joanna Russ will all be on the list.</p>
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		<title>All over the place &amp; a question</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2006/01/27/all-over-the-place-a-question/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a question for sf/fantasy/horror etc readers. Who are the new feminist voices you&#8217;re most excited about? I&#8217;m hearing great things about Sarah Monette. And I know all about Lauren McLaughlin and Meghan McCarron. But who am I missing out on? Who now is writing books and stories that look at questions of identity, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question for sf/fantasy/horror etc readers. Who are the new feminist voices you&#8217;re most excited about? I&#8217;m hearing great things about Sarah Monette. And I know all about <a href="http://www.laurenmclaughlin.net/wordpress/">Lauren McLaughlin</a> and <a href="http://megmccarron.livejournal.com/">Meghan McCarron</a>. But who am I missing out on? Who now is writing books and stories that look at questions of identity, gender, sex, race, class in cool and interesting ways? Who talks about these issues in exciting ways on their blogs? Tell me!</p>
<p>I just heard that, <a href="http://www.upne.com/0-8195-6675-6.html"><em>Daughters of Earth</em></a>, my feminist sf anthology will be out 1 May. Just in time for <a href="http://www.wiscon.info/">WisCon</a>! Most excellent!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working on a post for awhile now about all the fabby blogs about the publishing industry and the glories of <a href="http://misssnark.blogspot.com/">Miss Snark</a> et al. Fortunately for me <a href="http://secretsocietygirl.com">Diana Peterfreund</a> has <a href="http://dianapeterfreund.blogspot.com/2006/01/million-little-industry-blogs.html">beaten me to the punch</a> so now I don&#8217;t have to bother. What she said.</p>
<p>I agree with <a href="http://locusmag.com/2006/Features/Cheney_BestOf2005.html">Matt Cheney</a> that <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0670059684/103-2738058-7871025?v=glance&#038;n=283155"><em>Mister Boots</em></a> is <a href="http://www.sfwa.org/members/emshwiller/">Carol Emshwiller</a>&#8217;s best novel and I can&#8217;t believe I forgot all about it when <a href="http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/?p=255">talking about the BBYAs</a>. Why the hell wasn&#8217;t <em>Mister Boots</em> on that list? Why wasn&#8217;t it a Printz honoree? Everyone go buy a copy immediately. You&#8217;ll love it!</p>
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		<title>Nothing Changes</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2005 19:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meghan McCarron has just written eloquently about <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/megmccarron/67589.html">sexism in publishing</a>. Why do so many anthologies and short stories magazines have way more stories by men than by women? Why do men get more awards and reviewed more widely? The <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/megmccarron/67589.html">ensuing discussion</a> is very cool, too.</p>
<p>I confess that I get very tired when I consider all of this. I spent years <a href="http://www.justinelarbalestier.com/Musings/Musings2003/research.htm">researching gender, sexuality, men, women and hermaphrodites in science fiction</a>. Hell, I even wrote <a href="http://justinelarbalestier.com/Battle/index.htm">a book about it</a>.  Sometimes I wonder if anything has changed at all.</p>
<p>Fortunately, I&#8217;m now in a genre&#8212;Young Adult fiction&#8212;that&#8217;s overwhelmingly written by women. And its awards reflect that. The <a href="http://www.ala.org/ala/yalsa/booklistsawards/printzaward/Printz,_Michael_L__Award.htm">Prinz</a> has only been awarded six times thus far and so far it&#8217;s 50% women. The US <a href="http://www.nationalbook.org/nbawinners.html">National Book Award</a> has had a Young People&#8217;s Literature award since 1996 and women have won six times to the bloke&#8217;s three. The <a href="http://www.cbc.org.au/awards1.htm">Australian Children&#8217;s Book Council Awards</a> for Best Book of the Year (Older Readers) was first awarded in 1987: women eleven; blokes eight. (My counts may be out because I&#8217;m innumerate and jetlagged.)</p>
<p>Looks good to me.</p>
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		<title>My World Fantasy Con Schedule (updated)</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2005/10/30/my-world-fantasy-con-schedule/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only two panels, so there&#8217;ll be heaps of time to hang out in the bar. Woo hoo!
Thursday 2:00-3:00PM
Gender-Bending Fantasy (Capitol A)
Inhabitants of fantastic worlds typically disregard the laws of physics, and frequently re-cast societal norms to fit an un-earthly reality. This panel will discuss recent fantasy fiction that challenges assumptions of sex and gender.
Terry A. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only two panels, so there&#8217;ll be heaps of time to hang out in the bar. Woo hoo!</p>
<p>Thursday 2:00-3:00PM<br />
Gender-Bending Fantasy (Capitol A)<br />
Inhabitants of fantastic worlds typically disregard the laws of physics, and frequently re-cast societal norms to fit an un-earthly reality. This panel will discuss recent fantasy fiction that challenges assumptions of sex and gender.<br />
Terry A. Garey, Ellen Klages, Justine Larbalestier(M), Diane Martin, Jill Roberts</p>
<p>Friday 12:00-1:00PM<br />
Images of Women in Fantasy Literature (Capitol A)<br />
The home of WisCon, Madison is the center for feminism in fantasy and science fiction. We will discuss the roles women have had in fantasy since Tolkien. Fantasy has become populated with women, finally, but are they realistic women who provide good role models? Can modern feminist ideals be successfully inserted into a medieval story? What are the best examples of a feminist character in fantasy?<br />
Kate Elliott, Anne Harris, Graham Joyce, Justine Larbalestier, Jane Lindskold</p>
<p>Update: Turns out that <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/users/megmccarron/63007.html">Megan McCarron&#8217;s WFC schedule</a> is <i>way</i> cooler than mine.  I&#8217;m so jealous! (Except for the Clarion one. Never went to Clarion, me.)</p>
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		<title>My World Science Fiction Convention Schedule</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2005/07/28/my-world-science-fiction-convention-schedule/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, like everyone else in the entire sf world, I will be jetting over to Glasgow to partake of science fictiony thingies for several days at the World Science Fiction Convention. I&#8217;ll hang out with me mates, meet new people, and spend a lot of time in the bar watching England being destroyed by Australia [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, like everyone else in the entire sf world, I will be jetting over to Glasgow to partake of science fictiony thingies for several days at the <a href="http://www.interaction.worldcon.org.uk/">World Science Fiction Convention</a>. I&#8217;ll hang out with me mates, meet new people, and spend a lot of time in the bar watching England being destroyed by Australia in the second test at Edgbaston. Can&#8217;t wait. (I&#8217;m just sad that it won&#8217;t be in an English bar. Fortunately there&#8217;ll be enough English sf fans around that my gloating enjoyment of their team&#8217;s destruction will have an audience. In fact I&#8217;m going to greet every new person by asking if they&#8217;re English or not. And if they are, I&#8217;ll say, &#8220;Cricket. Ashes. Ha ha ha!&#8221;)</p>
<p>Friday  2:30pm <b>Reading</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll read some stuff. Maybe from <a href="http://www.justinelarbalestier.com/Magic/index.htm"><i>Magic or Madness</i></a>, or <a href="http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/?p=15"><i>Magic Lessons</i></a> (the sequel to <i>Magic or Madness</i>&#8212;the reading will contain no spoilers), or I could read from my <a href="http://www.justinelarbalestier.com/nuthinktoseemovealong.htm">brand new novel</a> which no one knows nuthink about and I&#8217;ve never read out loud to anyone but <a href="http://www.scottwesterfeld.com">me spousal</a>. Dunno. I&#8217;ve got half an hour, but that&#8217;s ridiculously long. I don&#8217;t like to read for more than 15 minutes, that way me and me audience (both of us) can go to the bar and watch England being destroyed in the second test.</p>
<p>Saturday 12:00 noon <b>Feminism as Setting</b></p>
<p>Trudi Canavan<br />
Anne K. Gay (M)<br />
Jon Courtenay Grimwood<br />
Mari Kotani<br />
Justine Larbalestier<br />
Ruth Nestvold</p>
<p>Description: Feminism is no longer the story, instead it&#8217;s the setting&#8212;what has this meant for feminist writers?</p>
<p>My take: Huh? I don&#8217;t agree with the premise. Feminism can be both setting and story, these are not contradictory terms. Plus it will be tricky to work a discussion of the cricket in.</p>
<p>Sunday  11:00am  <b>The 1950s, 50 Years On </b></p>
<p>Gail Dana<br />
Irma HirsjSrvi<br />
Justine Larbalestier<br />
Greg Pickersgill<br />
Mark Rich  (M)</p>
<p>Description: The 1950s saw the Golden Era of Science Fiction film and the blossoming of writers such as Asimov, Sturgeon, Dick, Farmer, Walter M. Miller and Poul Anderson. What do we think of them now?</p>
<p>My Take: How could you list the best of the 1950s sf writers and not include Alfred Bester? Or Theodore Sturgeon? Or Margaret St. Clair? I&#8217;ll argue that sf writing in the 1950s was indeed a golden age, the period when sf turned its attention to the social sciences and examined social issues more than ever before. It&#8217;s often argued that that didn&#8217;t start happening until the 1960s which is crap. Also the 1950s saw some of <a href="http://www.justinelarbalestier.com/Musings/Musings2004/KeithMiller.htm">Keith Miller</a>&#8217;s finest batting and bowling.</p>
<p>See you in Glasgow.</p>
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		<title>Brave Rabbits: the Carol Emshwiller and Ursula Le Guin Show</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2003 03:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
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  Saturday&#8217;s conversation between <a href="http://ltimmel.home.mindspring.com/emshwiller.html">Carol Emshwiller</a> and <a href="http://www.ursulakleguin.com/">Ursula Le Guin</a> was fabulous and moving and for me the highlight of the 2003 WisCon. <a href="http://www.sff.net/people/gunn/">Eileen Gunn</a> fed them the occasional question, but mostly they chatted amongst themselves, covering writing about the recent war (Ursula needs to stew on things for a while, so hasn&#8217;t yet; for Carol the process is more immediate&#8212;she&#8217;s already sold a number of <a href="http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/originals/originals_archive/emshwiller3/emshwiller31.html">stories on the subject</a>, at least one of which is in print), teaching the craft of writing (Ursula loves to steer her students towards contemplating the fine art of comma placement), raising childen while trying to write (apparently the trick is to get them to go to bed by 7:30pm) and a great deal more about the road they&#8217;ve had to hoe as writers. It was glorious wittnessing such a warm and easy friendship between two very different women. Ursula&#8217;s path has been for the most part golden (does anyone truly have an easy path?) with supportive parents and spouse, while Carol came to writing later, with little support and a certain amount of hinderance from her spouse. Her discussion of the difficulties of stealing time to write whle raising her children (&quot;I felt like I couldn&#8217;t breathe,&quot; she said at one point, smiling) elicited hisses for her late husband from the audience, and yet there was no condemnation in her words nor even the faintest whiff of bitterness. Ursula claimed to be a rabbit in comparison to Carol&#8217;s bravery. Carol claimed that she too was a rabbit. John Kessel dryly pointed out from the audience that, if so, she was a very brave rabbit. The audience laughed a great deal, and I know that I was not the only one whose eyes filled with tears.</p>
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  Carol is in her eighties and Ursula in her seventies. The average life expectancy of a woman in the USA is 79, so they&#8217;re doing well, but have hardly reached Guiness Book of World Records ages. So why the big deal? Carol and Ursula&#8212;at any age&#8212;are extraordinary people. Warm, witty, compassionate brilliant writers. Part of the big deal is that they are doing some of the best writing of their careers <em>right now</em>. They show that the life of a writer can just keep on going. If you&#8217;re healthy and still sparking on all cylinders&#8212;though both Carol and Ursula seem to have way more cylinders than most of us&#8212;you can write, and more importantly, you can keep getting better. Who doesn&#8217;t want to hear that message?</p>
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  But what filled my eyes with tears as I listened to those two white-haired, sharp-witted, funny, funny women was that not only are they ubelievably cool folk that anyone would give their eyeteeth to hang out with but they run counter to the predominate images of old women we get in the west. Most of us under fifty have never seen anyone remotely like them on television, or on film. We were given no expectations as we grew up that old age for a woman is anything other than a time of horror, ugliness and stupidity. You&#8217;ll lose your looks (someone must&#8217;ve forgotten to tell Carol and Ursula about that one), your mind (ditto) and will either turn into a mean, screeching witch who eats children or a gentle, silver-haired Stepford grandma with an endless supply of home-baked cookies and homilies and little interest in anything other than her grandchildren.</p>
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  Most of us in the west are afraid of old age. On Saturday, watching Carol and Ursula talk and laugh about their writing lives, for the first time in my life, I wasn&#8217;t remotely afraid. </p>
<p>Madison, Wisconsin, 25 May 2003</p>
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