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	<title>Comments on: Guest Post: Claire Light on How to Put Together a Story</title>
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		<title>By: Joe Iriarte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Iriarte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good idea, Sue. I&#039;ll have to think about whether I could work something like that into my story. Thanks for the food for thought! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good idea, Sue. I&#8217;ll have to think about whether I could work something like that into my story. Thanks for the food for thought! <img src='http://justinelarbalestier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Joe
If you have a simple story about the person reaching her goal and attaining it and a concurrent sequence of events from antagonists intent on taking it from her, you can build to a massive interaction at the point of attainment, creating intense loss and can pan your quest to get it back from there, using the antagonists as interaction throughout the quest. Just a thought. Sue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Joe<br />
If you have a simple story about the person reaching her goal and attaining it and a concurrent sequence of events from antagonists intent on taking it from her, you can build to a massive interaction at the point of attainment, creating intense loss and can pan your quest to get it back from there, using the antagonists as interaction throughout the quest. Just a thought. Sue</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto to many of the comments above. My novels are full of characters in search of a good story. I sometimes think I&#039;m not patient enough to tease out actually what the thing I&#039;m trying to write is about and end up sort of treading water. Or I&#039;ve thought I needed a mapped out plot prior to writing - which is the fastest way to have me grind to a halt. I&#039;m mostly writing about people trying to &#039;find themselves&#039; which is pretty vague, but how we all come to be who we are is a phenomenon which fascinates me. Therefore, re-thinking in terms of desire and obstacle is very helpful. BTW there is a kind of experimental writing called &#039;fictocriticism&#039; which comes out of academia (I just did a PhD on it) which investigates non-linear narrative for those interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto to many of the comments above. My novels are full of characters in search of a good story. I sometimes think I&#8217;m not patient enough to tease out actually what the thing I&#8217;m trying to write is about and end up sort of treading water. Or I&#8217;ve thought I needed a mapped out plot prior to writing &#8211; which is the fastest way to have me grind to a halt. I&#8217;m mostly writing about people trying to &#8216;find themselves&#8217; which is pretty vague, but how we all come to be who we are is a phenomenon which fascinates me. Therefore, re-thinking in terms of desire and obstacle is very helpful. BTW there is a kind of experimental writing called &#8216;fictocriticism&#8217; which comes out of academia (I just did a PhD on it) which investigates non-linear narrative for those interested.</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zoe: you&#039;re welcome! Hope it really helps!

@Cy: Cool! You should contact me (click through the about link on my blog and you&#039;ll find contact info.) I have a friend who writes YA who&#039;s starting a website for Asian American writers. I&#039;ll put you in touch with him if you like, so you can check out the website when it&#039;s done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zoe: you&#8217;re welcome! Hope it really helps!</p>
<p>@Cy: Cool! You should contact me (click through the about link on my blog and you&#8217;ll find contact info.) I have a friend who writes YA who&#8217;s starting a website for Asian American writers. I&#8217;ll put you in touch with him if you like, so you can check out the website when it&#8217;s done.</p>
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		<title>By: Cy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How cool! It&#039;s nice to meet a fellow Asian-American (Asian-Australian? Canadian?) surfing around these book blogs~ :D I&#039;ve only got a lame-o hobby livejournal (mostly random translations and news about Japanese anime or video games ^^;; Heheh...), not a real blog. I air all my &quot;serious&quot; opinions as a lurker on proper blogs like Justine&#039;s here (mwa ha, only once in a while... usually, I just like reading what other people are thinking ^^). I guess to introduce myself, I&#039;m a marketing cubicle-dweller (bleeehhh) and an on-the-side freelance manga translator, but hope to write my own YA Fantasy books someday. ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How cool! It&#8217;s nice to meet a fellow Asian-American (Asian-Australian? Canadian?) surfing around these book blogs~ <img src='http://justinelarbalestier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ve only got a lame-o hobby livejournal (mostly random translations and news about Japanese anime or video games ^^;; Heheh&#8230;), not a real blog. I air all my &#8220;serious&#8221; opinions as a lurker on proper blogs like Justine&#8217;s here (mwa ha, only once in a while&#8230; usually, I just like reading what other people are thinking ^^). I guess to introduce myself, I&#8217;m a marketing cubicle-dweller (bleeehhh) and an on-the-side freelance manga translator, but hope to write my own YA Fantasy books someday. ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The question isn’t &#039;what happens next?&#039; the question is rather “what does my character make happen?&#039;&quot; WOW. Total paradigm shift for me! Great insight; now I&#039;m thinking correctly and have some ideas. (I was stuck.) Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The question isn’t &#8216;what happens next?&#8217; the question is rather “what does my character make happen?&#8217;&#8221; WOW. Total paradigm shift for me! Great insight; now I&#8217;m thinking correctly and have some ideas. (I was stuck.) Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cy: yes, I&#039;m Asian! Chinese! Biracial, actually. Are you on the internet somewhere, perhaps a bloggy somewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cy: yes, I&#8217;m Asian! Chinese! Biracial, actually. Are you on the internet somewhere, perhaps a bloggy somewhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Cy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response, Claire--glad to hear you&#039;re making that website. :D I found your blog yesterday, so I&#039;m going to be coming over to haunt it once in a while. Really loved your post to editors about how to help good POC writers make the transition from small mags to big publishers. Out of curiosity, are you Asian too? Your opinions seem to line up so well with mine (though yours are much better thought-out and expressed ^^; ). I&#039;ll go poke around &quot;See Light&quot; a bit more~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response, Claire&#8211;glad to hear you&#8217;re making that website. <img src='http://justinelarbalestier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I found your blog yesterday, so I&#8217;m going to be coming over to haunt it once in a while. Really loved your post to editors about how to help good POC writers make the transition from small mags to big publishers. Out of curiosity, are you Asian too? Your opinions seem to line up so well with mine (though yours are much better thought-out and expressed ^^; ). I&#8217;ll go poke around &#8220;See Light&#8221; a bit more~</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cy, funny you should ask. I&#039;m working on a website now and am planning on putting up some of my handouts when it&#039;s up. But that&#039;ll take a while ... ;P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cy, funny you should ask. I&#8217;m working on a website now and am planning on putting up some of my handouts when it&#8217;s up. But that&#8217;ll take a while &#8230; ;P</p>
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		<title>By: Cy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claire! Thank you for this breakdown--very, very helpful! :D It seems like a basic thing all storytellers should understand (and I&#039;m sure we do internally... somewhere...), but keeping the idea of conflict front-and-center while writing will really help those of us who get stuck in the middle doldrums easily. You laid it out so clearly, too (luv the examples!)--too bad your classes are only up in the Oakland area! Any chance you&#039;ll post your lesson plans online anywhere? :D ♥</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claire! Thank you for this breakdown&#8211;very, very helpful! <img src='http://justinelarbalestier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  It seems like a basic thing all storytellers should understand (and I&#8217;m sure we do internally&#8230; somewhere&#8230;), but keeping the idea of conflict front-and-center while writing will really help those of us who get stuck in the middle doldrums easily. You laid it out so clearly, too (luv the examples!)&#8211;too bad your classes are only up in the Oakland area! Any chance you&#8217;ll post your lesson plans online anywhere? <img src='http://justinelarbalestier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  ♥</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lauren, you give great writing advice yerself, lady. I wish you gave more of it to us peons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lauren, you give great writing advice yerself, lady. I wish you gave more of it to us peons!</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ulysses: I tend to think there&#039;s no wrong way to think about writing, but rather a way that works for you now and a way that isn&#039;t working for you now. :) I&#039;m glad I could be of use.

@Belongum: indeed! The advice I tend to give my students sounds very authoritative, but when it helps them (they tell me), it does so simply because it broke them out of the thinking that they were stuck in, and gave them permission to do something else. Sometimes I think writing is just a alternating process of impetus and permission-giving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ulysses: I tend to think there&#8217;s no wrong way to think about writing, but rather a way that works for you now and a way that isn&#8217;t working for you now. <img src='http://justinelarbalestier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m glad I could be of use.</p>
<p>@Belongum: indeed! The advice I tend to give my students sounds very authoritative, but when it helps them (they tell me), it does so simply because it broke them out of the thinking that they were stuck in, and gave them permission to do something else. Sometimes I think writing is just a alternating process of impetus and permission-giving.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Iriarte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Iriarte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Diana. I guess the trick is doing that sort of thing &lt;i&gt;well.&lt;/i&gt; *grin* 

I think in romantic stories, like Claire pointed out, the glow of that initial blossoming can kind of keep things going for the reader. I&#039;m not a big reader of romance as a genre, but I do read plenty of stories that feature romantic relationships, and I know I enjoy basking in the protagonist&#039;s happiness for a bit. A recent read that comes to mind is &lt;i&gt;The Time Traveler&#039;s Wife&lt;/i&gt;. There&#039;s a period of time when twenty-something Henry and twenty-something Clare meet (iirc) and things are going pretty well for them, before the tension of their struggles to have a baby are introduced, that I just ate right up. 

I&#039;m not positive other kinds of stories can get away with drawing that out, though. Luke finds out pretty quickly that there&#039;s more for him to do after he rescues Leia. (Heh. That reminds me of the end of most worlds in Super Mario Brothers: &quot;Thanks Mario . . . but our princess is in another castle.&quot; AAARGH!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Diana. I guess the trick is doing that sort of thing <i>well.</i> *grin* </p>
<p>I think in romantic stories, like Claire pointed out, the glow of that initial blossoming can kind of keep things going for the reader. I&#8217;m not a big reader of romance as a genre, but I do read plenty of stories that feature romantic relationships, and I know I enjoy basking in the protagonist&#8217;s happiness for a bit. A recent read that comes to mind is <i>The Time Traveler&#8217;s Wife</i>. There&#8217;s a period of time when twenty-something Henry and twenty-something Clare meet (iirc) and things are going pretty well for them, before the tension of their struggles to have a baby are introduced, that I just ate right up. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not positive other kinds of stories can get away with drawing that out, though. Luke finds out pretty quickly that there&#8217;s more for him to do after he rescues Leia. (Heh. That reminds me of the end of most worlds in Super Mario Brothers: &#8220;Thanks Mario . . . but our princess is in another castle.&#8221; AAARGH!)</p>
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		<title>By: cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>couldnt have come at a better time.
thank you for a fantastic post!</description>
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thank you for a fantastic post!</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren McLaughlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren McLaughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No internet for a week and I come back to see Claire Light guesting on Larb&#039;s blog. So lovely. Thanks darling. I love writer advice. I forget all the good stuff all the time and it so helps to see it written out in shining photons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No internet for a week and I come back to see Claire Light guesting on Larb&#8217;s blog. So lovely. Thanks darling. I love writer advice. I forget all the good stuff all the time and it so helps to see it written out in shining photons.</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Diana &amp; Joe: Hmm, thought about in those terms, you could say that most love stories follow that narrative. Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl.

@Adrian: I just got my contributor&#039;s copy of &lt;i&gt;Narrative Power&lt;/i&gt; from Aqueduct Press, an anthology about narrative and politics that I contributed an essay to. I&#039;ve only just started reading it, but the first piece by Carolyn Ives Gilman talks about alternative narrative forms and alternative constructions of time and reality -- alternative to the western one, that is. You can find the book here: http://aqueductpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Diana &amp; Joe: Hmm, thought about in those terms, you could say that most love stories follow that narrative. Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl.</p>
<p>@Adrian: I just got my contributor&#8217;s copy of <i>Narrative Power</i> from Aqueduct Press, an anthology about narrative and politics that I contributed an essay to. I&#8217;ve only just started reading it, but the first piece by Carolyn Ives Gilman talks about alternative narrative forms and alternative constructions of time and reality &#8212; alternative to the western one, that is. You can find the book here: <a href="http://aqueductpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://aqueductpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ulysses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ulysses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Claire.  I&#039;ve been having some difficulty with my latest work, and your assertion that the question should not be &quot;what happens next,&quot; but &quot;what does my character make happen&quot; is a revelation.  It&#039;s clear now that I&#039;ve been thinking about things the wrong way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Claire.  I&#8217;ve been having some difficulty with my latest work, and your assertion that the question should not be &#8220;what happens next,&#8221; but &#8220;what does my character make happen&#8221; is a revelation.  It&#8217;s clear now that I&#8217;ve been thinking about things the wrong way.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Peterfreund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Peterfreund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, I think what you are talking about it actually done regularly. It&#039;s called the &quot;monkey wrench&quot; in industry jargon. Basically, the character thinks they&#039;ve done something to achieve their goal, only to realize that there&#039;s a lot more to go before they really do what they need to do. For instance, initially, Frodo thinks all he needs to do is get the ring to the Elves. Luke Skywalker thinks all he needs to do is get the plans for the attack to Alderan. Etc.

So there&#039;s always that moment where the character goes &quot;phew, I&#039;m safe, I did it&quot; and then they realize that no, they haven&#039;t -- either because their goal is taken away from them again, or because after achieving the goal, they realize that it&#039;s not as easy as they thought.

To look at the Matrix again, Neo&#039;s problems with the nature of reality aren&#039;t over once Morpheus tells him the truth and he takes the pill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, I think what you are talking about it actually done regularly. It&#8217;s called the &#8220;monkey wrench&#8221; in industry jargon. Basically, the character thinks they&#8217;ve done something to achieve their goal, only to realize that there&#8217;s a lot more to go before they really do what they need to do. For instance, initially, Frodo thinks all he needs to do is get the ring to the Elves. Luke Skywalker thinks all he needs to do is get the plans for the attack to Alderan. Etc.</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s always that moment where the character goes &#8220;phew, I&#8217;m safe, I did it&#8221; and then they realize that no, they haven&#8217;t &#8212; either because their goal is taken away from them again, or because after achieving the goal, they realize that it&#8217;s not as easy as they thought.</p>
<p>To look at the Matrix again, Neo&#8217;s problems with the nature of reality aren&#8217;t over once Morpheus tells him the truth and he takes the pill.</p>
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		<title>By: Belongum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belongum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was REALLY well done Claire - thanks so much for taking the time to explain it mate! You remind me of a writing mentor of mine who firmly believes in applying a &#039;plan&#039; to his writing. He does so with military precision - which isn&#039;t such a surprise given his chosen profession for most of his working life. 

What I love most about his use of such a &#039;tool&#039; to develop his yarn - is that it&#039;s firmly rooted in the fact that a good plan - can change! It&#039;s fluid - that&#039;s the secret of a good plan. Nothings written in stone so to speak and if it was - well, it&#039;s your plan - you can actually change it if you want, so long as you achieve the aim you were looking for - what&#039;s the worry eh? ;-)

People get caught up very easily in this - they set themselves in a kind of mental concrete and it&#039;s really difficult to shift once you&#039;ve put yourself in that position.

Cheers for reminding me of this...

Regards

Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was REALLY well done Claire &#8211; thanks so much for taking the time to explain it mate! You remind me of a writing mentor of mine who firmly believes in applying a &#8216;plan&#8217; to his writing. He does so with military precision &#8211; which isn&#8217;t such a surprise given his chosen profession for most of his working life. </p>
<p>What I love most about his use of such a &#8216;tool&#8217; to develop his yarn &#8211; is that it&#8217;s firmly rooted in the fact that a good plan &#8211; can change! It&#8217;s fluid &#8211; that&#8217;s the secret of a good plan. Nothings written in stone so to speak and if it was &#8211; well, it&#8217;s your plan &#8211; you can actually change it if you want, so long as you achieve the aim you were looking for &#8211; what&#8217;s the worry eh? <img src='http://justinelarbalestier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>People get caught up very easily in this &#8211; they set themselves in a kind of mental concrete and it&#8217;s really difficult to shift once you&#8217;ve put yourself in that position.</p>
<p>Cheers for reminding me of this&#8230;</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Ron</p>
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		<title>By: claire</title>
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		<dc:creator>claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, guys! I DO hope it&#039;s helpful. If it is, it will simply be because it gets you writing again. 

@Joe, that sounds really interesting and I&#039;m trying to think of examples where that has been tried before and am drawing a blank. Can anyone think of examples?

I think the key to making such a strategy work would be to place the first attainment of the goal early enough in the story so that it ends up being just another step towards achieving the goal. Each step towards achieving the goal is followed by a bit of down time in the tension of the story. The tension doesn&#039;t go all the way down, however, and gets ratcheted up again when the protag takes the next step.

And do think about how you can make this step important to the story. Perhaps, by achieving the goal for a moment, the protag starts to question the worthiness of that goal, thereby introducing a nice complexity to the conflict. Or perhaps the goal now becomes not just to get the thing, but also to keep it, which necessitates a change of strategy.

@Adrian: I&#039;d like to know, too! I&#039;ve never really investigated this, but I&#039;ll bet there are a lot of internet resources. Maybe it&#039;s time I did that. Anyone have helpful hints?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, guys! I DO hope it&#8217;s helpful. If it is, it will simply be because it gets you writing again. </p>
<p>@Joe, that sounds really interesting and I&#8217;m trying to think of examples where that has been tried before and am drawing a blank. Can anyone think of examples?</p>
<p>I think the key to making such a strategy work would be to place the first attainment of the goal early enough in the story so that it ends up being just another step towards achieving the goal. Each step towards achieving the goal is followed by a bit of down time in the tension of the story. The tension doesn&#8217;t go all the way down, however, and gets ratcheted up again when the protag takes the next step.</p>
<p>And do think about how you can make this step important to the story. Perhaps, by achieving the goal for a moment, the protag starts to question the worthiness of that goal, thereby introducing a nice complexity to the conflict. Or perhaps the goal now becomes not just to get the thing, but also to keep it, which necessitates a change of strategy.</p>
<p>@Adrian: I&#8217;d like to know, too! I&#8217;ve never really investigated this, but I&#8217;ll bet there are a lot of internet resources. Maybe it&#8217;s time I did that. Anyone have helpful hints?</p>
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		<title>By: Akilah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akilah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome post.  I have taken numerous writing classes, and this post has pretty much addressed my biggest writing problem.  CONFLICT, bah.  But this is very practical and helpful.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome post.  I have taken numerous writing classes, and this post has pretty much addressed my biggest writing problem.  CONFLICT, bah.  But this is very practical and helpful.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helpful-seeming advice; I hope it actually helps me.  Now I&#039;m wondering about non-western ways of storytelling and how they work.  Does anyone know of any resources (preferably on the internet) to learn about that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helpful-seeming advice; I hope it actually helps me.  Now I&#8217;m wondering about non-western ways of storytelling and how they work.  Does anyone know of any resources (preferably on the internet) to learn about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Pam Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!  I&#039;d forgotten about the Mrs. &#039;Arris books. [runs to check library]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  I&#8217;d forgotten about the Mrs. &#8216;Arris books. [runs to check library]</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Iriarte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Iriarte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most excellent post!

I have a question about something that cropped up just today when I was baking a short story idea. I was toying with the notion of having the protagonist attain her main tangible goal well before the end, only to have something snatch it away from her again. I worried, though, that in those moments when it seemed she had attained her goal, the story would sag. What do you think? Is it a bad idea to actually let a protagonist hold the goods for very long? Can I keep the momentum going by temporarily focusing on a less prominent goal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most excellent post!</p>
<p>I have a question about something that cropped up just today when I was baking a short story idea. I was toying with the notion of having the protagonist attain her main tangible goal well before the end, only to have something snatch it away from her again. I worried, though, that in those moments when it seemed she had attained her goal, the story would sag. What do you think? Is it a bad idea to actually let a protagonist hold the goods for very long? Can I keep the momentum going by temporarily focusing on a less prominent goal?</p>
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		<title>By: Leah Odze Epstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah Odze Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks--this was helpful---I like the idea that your protagonist can want things to stay the same. This expands the idea that the protagonist must want something tangible--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8211;this was helpful&#8212;I like the idea that your protagonist can want things to stay the same. This expands the idea that the protagonist must want something tangible&#8211;</p>
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