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		<title>By: C. J.</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/28/water-without-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-82467</link>
		<dc:creator>C. J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not impossible -- it just takes cultivation.  In the case of one mixologist, it took fifteen months&#185; before he dropped the &quot;no ice... &lt;i&gt;(beat)&lt;/i&gt;...are you sure?&quot; response to my request for &quot;$DRINK with water/soda back, no ice, please&quot; from his standard patter.  
I&#039;ve actually trained him to prepare a Long Island Tea&#178; without sputtering.&#179;  

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[1] There were at least two ---ing cold Februarys amongst the aforementioned fifteen months.  Persistence and the occasional blank stare eventually led to triumph.  :-)

[2] Not a typo.  Same ingredients as an LIIT, but all start at &gt;0&#176;C.  Tastes better and is slightly less debilitating.

[3] Alas, other bar patrons will inevitably compensate for mine host&#039;s aplomb by asking &quot;What the **** are you drinking?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not impossible &#8212; it just takes cultivation.  In the case of one mixologist, it took fifteen months&sup1; before he dropped the &#8220;no ice&#8230; <i>(beat)</i>&#8230;are you sure?&#8221; response to my request for &#8220;$DRINK with water/soda back, no ice, please&#8221; from his standard patter.<br />
I&#8217;ve actually trained him to prepare a Long Island Tea&sup2; without sputtering.&sup3;  </p>
<p>____<br />
[1] There were at least two &#8212;ing cold Februarys amongst the aforementioned fifteen months.  Persistence and the occasional blank stare eventually led to triumph.  <img src='http://justinelarbalestier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>[2] Not a typo.  Same ingredients as an LIIT, but all start at &gt;0&deg;C.  Tastes better and is slightly less debilitating.</p>
<p>[3] Alas, other bar patrons will inevitably compensate for mine host&#8217;s aplomb by asking &#8220;What the **** are you drinking?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Wagner</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/28/water-without-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-81675</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole discussion is weirding me out. I&#039;ve never found it difficult to get beverages without ice, and nobody&#039;s ever looked at me funny because of it. I just say, &quot;I&#039;d like a Diet Coke, no ice, please,&quot; and they bring it right away. Occasionally they get it wrong, but when I point it out the waitstaff trots back to the kitchen and brings me a fresh drink, properly made.

I feel like I&#039;ve fallen into a parallel universe: The World Of Mandatory Ice.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole discussion is weirding me out. I&#8217;ve never found it difficult to get beverages without ice, and nobody&#8217;s ever looked at me funny because of it. I just say, &#8220;I&#8217;d like a Diet Coke, no ice, please,&#8221; and they bring it right away. Occasionally they get it wrong, but when I point it out the waitstaff trots back to the kitchen and brings me a fresh drink, properly made.</p>
<p>I feel like I&#8217;ve fallen into a parallel universe: The World Of Mandatory Ice.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/28/water-without-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-81670</link>
		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ice is WAY overrated.  Everyone always looks at me weird when I tell them I don&#039;t want any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ice is WAY overrated.  Everyone always looks at me weird when I tell them I don&#8217;t want any.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/28/water-without-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-81649</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They just want more money for less stuff. So if they fill a glass half full of ice there&#039;s less pop, or whatever drink it is. You can ask for no ice, though, at least most places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They just want more money for less stuff. So if they fill a glass half full of ice there&#8217;s less pop, or whatever drink it is. You can ask for no ice, though, at least most places.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/28/water-without-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-81644</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why? Because it was in America that the ice industry was invented: http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/11/24/mf.ice/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? Because it was in America that the ice industry was invented: <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/11/24/mf.ice/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/11/24/mf.ice/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/28/water-without-ice/comment-page-1/#comment-81641</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I have caught my mother &lt;i&gt;putting ice in her wine.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I have caught my mother <i>putting ice in her wine.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I hate this.  Mostly.  I used to believe that they&#039;d fill up your cup with ice before giving you soda (something I noticed happening more and more starting in the 80s), as a cost-saving/CHEATING maneuver, but that doesn&#039;t really explain the ice in the water.

I don&#039;t hate ice in beverages unequivocally.  A few cubes can be nice in summertime.  And I think ice might disguise the taste of less-than-great water, actually.  But I really dislike being frozen from the center of my body on out all year round.  And it&#039;s completely unsatisfying to have more ice than water, and then have to wait 20 minutes for the stuff to melt in order to get any thirst-quenching done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I hate this.  Mostly.  I used to believe that they&#8217;d fill up your cup with ice before giving you soda (something I noticed happening more and more starting in the 80s), as a cost-saving/CHEATING maneuver, but that doesn&#8217;t really explain the ice in the water.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hate ice in beverages unequivocally.  A few cubes can be nice in summertime.  And I think ice might disguise the taste of less-than-great water, actually.  But I really dislike being frozen from the center of my body on out all year round.  And it&#8217;s completely unsatisfying to have more ice than water, and then have to wait 20 minutes for the stuff to melt in order to get any thirst-quenching done.</p>
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		<title>By: caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love ice.  For me a glass of water is not complete without several ice cubes swimming in already chilled water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love ice.  For me a glass of water is not complete without several ice cubes swimming in already chilled water.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, my mother orders drinks without ice all the time. It seems to be easier to get in fast-food joints, but whatever.

I don&#039;t really care if I get ice or not. If the drink wasn&#039;t refrigerated it&#039;s good, but if the drink was already cold, I don&#039;t care. I don&#039;t even bother to keep ice trays around at home any more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, my mother orders drinks without ice all the time. It seems to be easier to get in fast-food joints, but whatever.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really care if I get ice or not. If the drink wasn&#8217;t refrigerated it&#8217;s good, but if the drink was already cold, I don&#8217;t care. I don&#8217;t even bother to keep ice trays around at home any more.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love ice water, but I agree that it can be painful on the teeth!  Have you tried sensodyne toothpaste?  It worked for me.

I wonder why &quot;water, no ice&quot; is such a hard thing to get in restaurants.  Possibly an interesting research topic (this is the psych major in me talking) ;)

How goes the lindy hopping?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love ice water, but I agree that it can be painful on the teeth!  Have you tried sensodyne toothpaste?  It worked for me.</p>
<p>I wonder why &#8220;water, no ice&#8221; is such a hard thing to get in restaurants.  Possibly an interesting research topic (this is the psych major in me talking) <img src='http://justinelarbalestier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>How goes the lindy hopping?</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see other people are backing up my assertion that it&#039;s actually not at all hard to get beverages without ice here in America. 

Any statement to the otherwise is a vile calumny against our great nation. You hate us because of our freedom, and ice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see other people are backing up my assertion that it&#8217;s actually not at all hard to get beverages without ice here in America. </p>
<p>Any statement to the otherwise is a vile calumny against our great nation. You hate us because of our freedom, and ice.</p>
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		<title>By: Bethany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Rebecca, and some other mentions:
it&#039;s cheaper. It&#039;s default for that reason. And defaults mean strong habits, though that&#039;s not much of an excuse for forgetting.

Speaking of Starbucks, I had a friend who would order a hot coffee with a free cup of ice. She made her own iced coffee, just *more* of it. ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rebecca, and some other mentions:<br />
it&#8217;s cheaper. It&#8217;s default for that reason. And defaults mean strong habits, though that&#8217;s not much of an excuse for forgetting.</p>
<p>Speaking of Starbucks, I had a friend who would order a hot coffee with a free cup of ice. She made her own iced coffee, just *more* of it. ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always get my drinks without ice.  Not because of the temperature, but it melts and makes the drink watery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always get my drinks without ice.  Not because of the temperature, but it melts and makes the drink watery.</p>
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		<title>By: Elodie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ask for no ice, usually, but then sometimes they fill your cup less cause really, ice is just a way for places to be cheap--it costs a lot less than the beverage!  However I haven&#039;t had anywhere get mad at me or anything for asking no ice xD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ask for no ice, usually, but then sometimes they fill your cup less cause really, ice is just a way for places to be cheap&#8211;it costs a lot less than the beverage!  However I haven&#8217;t had anywhere get mad at me or anything for asking no ice xD</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justine - I don&#039;t feel comfortable saying this on YA author blog -  Uhh, I guess I am supremely talented with my tongue?

Lower lip covers front bottom teeth - tongue forms funnel to esophagus - I do not see the challenge.  The less talented may simply use alien technology called &quot;straw&quot;.

I will neither confirm nor deny freak status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justine &#8211; I don&#8217;t feel comfortable saying this on YA author blog &#8211;  Uhh, I guess I am supremely talented with my tongue?</p>
<p>Lower lip covers front bottom teeth &#8211; tongue forms funnel to esophagus &#8211; I do not see the challenge.  The less talented may simply use alien technology called &#8220;straw&#8221;.</p>
<p>I will neither confirm nor deny freak status.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always been anti-ice (personally, not generally), but I&#039;m the only person I know who is; I always drink everything (water on a hot day to soda) without ice, except juice, which is too thick (in my opinion) on its own but yucky watered down. I had no idea everpresent ice was only an American thing (My horizons could be broader) but was surprised; all my friends are ice-lovers who consider me a freak for not being one.

I don&#039;t know why there is so much ice here except for in one circumstance: I have heard that movie theaters use obscene amounts of ice because it&#039;s cheaper than soda. I assume this is true but I don&#039;t know if it applies to other places.

*please note this does not apply to alcoholic drinks as I am underage!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always been anti-ice (personally, not generally), but I&#8217;m the only person I know who is; I always drink everything (water on a hot day to soda) without ice, except juice, which is too thick (in my opinion) on its own but yucky watered down. I had no idea everpresent ice was only an American thing (My horizons could be broader) but was surprised; all my friends are ice-lovers who consider me a freak for not being one.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why there is so much ice here except for in one circumstance: I have heard that movie theaters use obscene amounts of ice because it&#8217;s cheaper than soda. I assume this is true but I don&#8217;t know if it applies to other places.</p>
<p>*please note this does not apply to alcoholic drinks as I am underage!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason, it&#039;s just the fashion in America right now.  I couldn&#039;t tell you why; I just live here.  Maybe restaurant management thinks it&#039;s more impressive or something.  

I used to not drink water unless it were absolutely ice-cold, but now I&#039;ve developed a taste for room-temperature stuff.  In fact, I was at a sandwich shop a few weeks ago that had run out of ice, so they only had room-temperature water.  I was so happy!  I think I drank about a quart of it.  

On the pro-ice side, though, although I don&#039;t usually drink anything other than water, I would say that lots of beverages-- definitely any cocktail-type mixed drink-- tastes better ice-cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, it&#8217;s just the fashion in America right now.  I couldn&#8217;t tell you why; I just live here.  Maybe restaurant management thinks it&#8217;s more impressive or something.  </p>
<p>I used to not drink water unless it were absolutely ice-cold, but now I&#8217;ve developed a taste for room-temperature stuff.  In fact, I was at a sandwich shop a few weeks ago that had run out of ice, so they only had room-temperature water.  I was so happy!  I think I drank about a quart of it.  </p>
<p>On the pro-ice side, though, although I don&#8217;t usually drink anything other than water, I would say that lots of beverages&#8211; definitely any cocktail-type mixed drink&#8211; tastes better ice-cold.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit in the middle somewhere.  I like ice, but I only like a little bit.  I hate it when I order a drink and the glass is half-ice.  I feel like I&#039;m being ripped off...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit in the middle somewhere.  I like ice, but I only like a little bit.  I hate it when I order a drink and the glass is half-ice.  I feel like I&#8217;m being ripped off&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paradox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in the US, and I don&#039;t like having ice in my drinks, unless it is a blazing summer day. Even then, I wouldn&#039;t put ice in orange juice. But it seems like everyone else around me HAS to have ice in all their drinks. I, personally, don&#039;t like my teeth frozen. At least I&#039;ve never seen anyone put ice in something like milk. I guess that&#039;s too much for anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the US, and I don&#8217;t like having ice in my drinks, unless it is a blazing summer day. Even then, I wouldn&#8217;t put ice in orange juice. But it seems like everyone else around me HAS to have ice in all their drinks. I, personally, don&#8217;t like my teeth frozen. At least I&#8217;ve never seen anyone put ice in something like milk. I guess that&#8217;s too much for anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate ice in my water. I always ask for water with no ice. Also, I get light ice or no ice in every drink. I think it&#039;s a ploy so the companies and restaurants can charge you for a full drink then fill it with ice so that you get almost nothing. *cough*STARBUCKS*cough*

In general, though, once I&#039;ve asked for no ice, people are pretty good about remembering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate ice in my water. I always ask for water with no ice. Also, I get light ice or no ice in every drink. I think it&#8217;s a ploy so the companies and restaurants can charge you for a full drink then fill it with ice so that you get almost nothing. *cough*STARBUCKS*cough*</p>
<p>In general, though, once I&#8217;ve asked for no ice, people are pretty good about remembering.</p>
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		<title>By: HypotheticalDystopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>HypotheticalDystopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually end up choking on ice cubes.  The only drink I like with ice cubes is too strong, so it has to be watered down. (And I drink it with a straw)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually end up choking on ice cubes.  The only drink I like with ice cubes is too strong, so it has to be watered down. (And I drink it with a straw)</p>
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		<title>By: m.k.</title>
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		<dc:creator>m.k.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my friends prefers water with no ice and does not seem to have the problem with waitstaff. They usually just pour it out of the pitcher carefully, and taa-daa, no ice cubes, and it&#039;s not a big hassle for them, but she can&#039;t count on them to remember it when they come back to top off her glass. 

On the other hand, I like to carefully calibrate the sweetness of my iced tea and have to guard my glass against waitstaff eager to top it off for me. Wandering a little off-topic, I&#039;m in a state where unsweetened iced tea is usually the default and if you want sweet tea, you need to sweeten it yourself (unless you order a &#039;plantation&#039; iced tea, made with fruit juice). I am mildly entertained by noting how visitors order iced tea because it can tell me things about where they are from and how much traveling they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my friends prefers water with no ice and does not seem to have the problem with waitstaff. They usually just pour it out of the pitcher carefully, and taa-daa, no ice cubes, and it&#8217;s not a big hassle for them, but she can&#8217;t count on them to remember it when they come back to top off her glass. </p>
<p>On the other hand, I like to carefully calibrate the sweetness of my iced tea and have to guard my glass against waitstaff eager to top it off for me. Wandering a little off-topic, I&#8217;m in a state where unsweetened iced tea is usually the default and if you want sweet tea, you need to sweeten it yourself (unless you order a &#8216;plantation&#8217; iced tea, made with fruit juice). I am mildly entertained by noting how visitors order iced tea because it can tell me things about where they are from and how much traveling they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Elizabeth S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Elizabeth S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mom likes LOTS of ice.  When she orders iced tea in a restaurant, she asks for &quot;ice tea, with an extra glass of ice&quot;.

I don&#039;t make special requests regarding ice in my drink, but when eating at a place where I fill my own cup I fill it halfway with ice and the rest is drink.  It&#039;s enough ice to float on the top and keep the drink cool without watering it down.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;d be happy with ice-less soda, but I rarely drink soda at all so it wouldn&#039;t be much of an issue.

~Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom likes LOTS of ice.  When she orders iced tea in a restaurant, she asks for &#8220;ice tea, with an extra glass of ice&#8221;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t make special requests regarding ice in my drink, but when eating at a place where I fill my own cup I fill it halfway with ice and the rest is drink.  It&#8217;s enough ice to float on the top and keep the drink cool without watering it down.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d be happy with ice-less soda, but I rarely drink soda at all so it wouldn&#8217;t be much of an issue.</p>
<p>~Mary</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like any of my drinks with ice in them, with the exception of iced coffee. It is always so much trouble to get any drinks without ice. I not only don&#039;t like the ice there, but it also leaves much, much less room for drink. I never like going through the trouble of having to pointedly state &quot;no ice, please,&quot; and therefore I usually put up with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like any of my drinks with ice in them, with the exception of iced coffee. It is always so much trouble to get any drinks without ice. I not only don&#8217;t like the ice there, but it also leaves much, much less room for drink. I never like going through the trouble of having to pointedly state &#8220;no ice, please,&#8221; and therefore I usually put up with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Shutterbug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shutterbug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a friend from France come over to the US and stay with my family.  She expressed exactly the same argument as you did.  I love cold beverages, but ice is a great nuisance, especially in water.  Asking for a straw usually helps with the frozen teeth problem.  (Preferably crazy, hot-pink straws.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a friend from France come over to the US and stay with my family.  She expressed exactly the same argument as you did.  I love cold beverages, but ice is a great nuisance, especially in water.  Asking for a straw usually helps with the frozen teeth problem.  (Preferably crazy, hot-pink straws.)</p>
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