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	<title>Comments on: They&#8217;re Just Girl Books. Who Cares?</title>
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		<title>By: mensley</title>
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		<dc:creator>mensley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminded me of a couple of things I&#039;ve sent to my wife over the years. One of our shared hobbies is noticing stupidities of cover design. Here&#039;s one on putting &quot;chick lit&quot; covers on anything written by women (with beachy cover goodness):

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/booksblog/2008/jul/29/thegreatchicklitcoverup

And here&#039;s one on the feet thing, from 2005! At this point I&#039;d been noticing this trend for a while, and was glad to see someone else had as well:

http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/book_jackets/because_much_more_than_a_books_content_is_prone_to_unoriginality_episode_5_legs_feet_shoes_21044.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminded me of a couple of things I&#8217;ve sent to my wife over the years. One of our shared hobbies is noticing stupidities of cover design. Here&#8217;s one on putting &#8220;chick lit&#8221; covers on anything written by women (with beachy cover goodness):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/booksblog/2008/jul/29/thegreatchicklitcoverup" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/booksblog/2008/jul/29/thegreatchicklitcoverup</a></p>
<p>And here&#8217;s one on the feet thing, from 2005! At this point I&#8217;d been noticing this trend for a while, and was glad to see someone else had as well:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/book_jackets/because_much_more_than_a_books_content_is_prone_to_unoriginality_episode_5_legs_feet_shoes_21044.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/book_jackets/because_much_more_than_a_books_content_is_prone_to_unoriginality_episode_5_legs_feet_shoes_21044.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cait</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kinda makes me glad that my Maureen Johnson books didn&#039;t come until after I went on vacation, because now I can proudly say I read &quot;Wide Awake&quot; by David Levithan and &quot;Feed&quot; by M. T. Anderson on the beach. Then again, one of those Maureen Johnson books was Devlish, a book about a girl trying to save her &amp; her best friend&#039;s IMMORTAL SOULS. Doesn&#039;t really sound like a &quot;Beach read,&quot; and yet it the cover features nothing but a girl and a cupcake. It makes sense in the context of the story, but cupcakes don&#039;t exactly make me think of Demons.


There&#039;s also the stereotype that female writers can only write female protagonists, while men can write anyone, even if their female leads are portrayed as airheaded-shoe-shopping-obsessed bimbos or men-with-boobs. And if, god forbid, a woman DOES decide to write from a male perspective? She gets relegated to initial-land, because obviously no boy would have ever read Harry Potter or The Outsiders if the names JOANNE and SUSAN were printed across the covers. 

In addition to book covers, I&#039;m curious now about how album covers and movie posters etc. compare. How do &quot;Chick Flicks&quot; compare to Action movies and other movies targeted toward a male audience?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kinda makes me glad that my Maureen Johnson books didn&#8217;t come until after I went on vacation, because now I can proudly say I read &#8220;Wide Awake&#8221; by David Levithan and &#8220;Feed&#8221; by M. T. Anderson on the beach. Then again, one of those Maureen Johnson books was Devlish, a book about a girl trying to save her &amp; her best friend&#8217;s IMMORTAL SOULS. Doesn&#8217;t really sound like a &#8220;Beach read,&#8221; and yet it the cover features nothing but a girl and a cupcake. It makes sense in the context of the story, but cupcakes don&#8217;t exactly make me think of Demons.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the stereotype that female writers can only write female protagonists, while men can write anyone, even if their female leads are portrayed as airheaded-shoe-shopping-obsessed bimbos or men-with-boobs. And if, god forbid, a woman DOES decide to write from a male perspective? She gets relegated to initial-land, because obviously no boy would have ever read Harry Potter or The Outsiders if the names JOANNE and SUSAN were printed across the covers. </p>
<p>In addition to book covers, I&#8217;m curious now about how album covers and movie posters etc. compare. How do &#8220;Chick Flicks&#8221; compare to Action movies and other movies targeted toward a male audience?</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by Chicklish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by Chicklish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leah Odze Epstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah Odze Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, this whole male/female writer thing is annoying. Why wasn&#039;t Jay McInerney&#039;s novel THE GOOD LIFE called a beach read? Even though it was &quot;about&quot; 9/11 aftermath, it was still fast-paced and actually, kind of breezy for a book on such a serious subject. But bec. there&#039;s no male chick-lit category (dick lit?) all the books are &quot;serious&quot;--Read McInerney sitting in a leather club chair and Jennifer Weiner at the beach? That&#039;s the implication, but some of us like to read Jennifer Weiner while sitting in a club chair, dammit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, this whole male/female writer thing is annoying. Why wasn&#8217;t Jay McInerney&#8217;s novel THE GOOD LIFE called a beach read? Even though it was &#8220;about&#8221; 9/11 aftermath, it was still fast-paced and actually, kind of breezy for a book on such a serious subject. But bec. there&#8217;s no male chick-lit category (dick lit?) all the books are &#8220;serious&#8221;&#8211;Read McInerney sitting in a leather club chair and Jennifer Weiner at the beach? That&#8217;s the implication, but some of us like to read Jennifer Weiner while sitting in a club chair, dammit!</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 08:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now this is an interesting post. When I was imagining what kind of cover my YA paranormal book would have, I thought powder blue with a silhouetted girl on the front. What my publisher actually produced was a funky turquiose rock-chick design. I don&#039;t doubt that it will appeal to girls but thank god it&#039;s not pastel...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now this is an interesting post. When I was imagining what kind of cover my YA paranormal book would have, I thought powder blue with a silhouetted girl on the front. What my publisher actually produced was a funky turquiose rock-chick design. I don&#8217;t doubt that it will appeal to girls but thank god it&#8217;s not pastel&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was inspired by your boy-books post to ask my tenth-grade students whether they think boys are more likely to read &quot;girl books&quot; or girls are more likely to read &quot;boy books.&quot; They were convinced it was equal (such egalitarian sophomores as they are) until I started holding up YA books and having them raise their hands if they would read it based on the cover. It soon became very clear that many more hands went up for the marketed-to-boys books or books with neutral covers than books with girls (or parts of girls) on the cover. Big shock there. (The ones I remember that had the least male interest were Maureen Johnson&#039;s Devilish and Outcasts at 19 Schyler Place, if anyone&#039;s interested.) 

But even that is just a tendency, not a law. I got so excited this year when one of the boys in my 8th grade class picked up my favorite book, I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith (chock full of romance and feelings and smoochies), and said when he finished that he wished it could have never ended. Guys certainly have the &lt;i&gt;capacity&lt;/i&gt; to enjoy books narrated by girls or featuring girls or even about girly topics, contrary to my own former teacher&#039;s claim that girls are just more &lt;i&gt;able&lt;/i&gt; to empathize and thus have an easier time connecting with a protagonist of another gender. Grr. 

Anyway, I&#039;m with you that publishers own a large share of the blame for the stereotype of chick lit. But as someone said earlier, they&#039;re not alone--movies, magazines, TV...they&#039;re all pretty much convinced women&#039;s lives are one long yogurt commercial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was inspired by your boy-books post to ask my tenth-grade students whether they think boys are more likely to read &#8220;girl books&#8221; or girls are more likely to read &#8220;boy books.&#8221; They were convinced it was equal (such egalitarian sophomores as they are) until I started holding up YA books and having them raise their hands if they would read it based on the cover. It soon became very clear that many more hands went up for the marketed-to-boys books or books with neutral covers than books with girls (or parts of girls) on the cover. Big shock there. (The ones I remember that had the least male interest were Maureen Johnson&#8217;s Devilish and Outcasts at 19 Schyler Place, if anyone&#8217;s interested.) </p>
<p>But even that is just a tendency, not a law. I got so excited this year when one of the boys in my 8th grade class picked up my favorite book, I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith (chock full of romance and feelings and smoochies), and said when he finished that he wished it could have never ended. Guys certainly have the <i>capacity</i> to enjoy books narrated by girls or featuring girls or even about girly topics, contrary to my own former teacher&#8217;s claim that girls are just more <i>able</i> to empathize and thus have an easier time connecting with a protagonist of another gender. Grr. </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m with you that publishers own a large share of the blame for the stereotype of chick lit. But as someone said earlier, they&#8217;re not alone&#8211;movies, magazines, TV&#8230;they&#8217;re all pretty much convinced women&#8217;s lives are one long yogurt commercial.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Elizabeth S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Elizabeth S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>angharad, I like your definition.  Books like that should be called &quot;armchair reads&quot; because they make you want to curl up in your favorite spot and read them forever.  Or maybe &quot;hiding place reads&quot;.  I&#039;d read a book that was recommended as a hiding place read.

Oddly enough, I&#039;d tried reading at the beach, and I couldn&#039;t stand it.  Too hot, too bright, too much sand in my underclothes.  Reading in the woods on a sunny afternoon, however, is heavenly.

And I know this is late, but YAY for Blood and Chocolate.  But if you liked the book, you probably wouldn&#039;t like the movie.  You would, however, enjoy The Silver Kiss, which is by the same author as Blood and Chocolate and leaves you with a similar feeling.

~Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>angharad, I like your definition.  Books like that should be called &#8220;armchair reads&#8221; because they make you want to curl up in your favorite spot and read them forever.  Or maybe &#8220;hiding place reads&#8221;.  I&#8217;d read a book that was recommended as a hiding place read.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, I&#8217;d tried reading at the beach, and I couldn&#8217;t stand it.  Too hot, too bright, too much sand in my underclothes.  Reading in the woods on a sunny afternoon, however, is heavenly.</p>
<p>And I know this is late, but YAY for Blood and Chocolate.  But if you liked the book, you probably wouldn&#8217;t like the movie.  You would, however, enjoy The Silver Kiss, which is by the same author as Blood and Chocolate and leaves you with a similar feeling.</p>
<p>~Mary</p>
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		<title>By: angharad</title>
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		<dc:creator>angharad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defense of beach reading:  I like to think that what people mean is that you want a book that is going to hold your interest for hours-- you&#039;ve set aside the time to do nothing but lie around and read-- what book should you pick?  So being called a Beach Read, wouldn&#039;t be an insult.  Shiver sounds like a book I want to swallow whole.

I would like a picture of LIbba&#039;s splash proof cover, please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of beach reading:  I like to think that what people mean is that you want a book that is going to hold your interest for hours&#8211; you&#8217;ve set aside the time to do nothing but lie around and read&#8211; what book should you pick?  So being called a Beach Read, wouldn&#8217;t be an insult.  Shiver sounds like a book I want to swallow whole.</p>
<p>I would like a picture of LIbba&#8217;s splash proof cover, please?</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bookwormchris: Yeah, there is a lot of pressure on boys not to touch girl books. Yay you for resisting it.

Diana: Yeah, there&#039;s so much to annoy in that article. You&#039;re so right about the equal genericness of the covers of capital L Literachure books. And, frequently, of their contents too. Oh, look, another middle aged uni professor is having a crisis and sleeping with his students. *yawn*

Maggie: You&#039;re a girl you write girl books. They can only be read on beaches. It&#039;s the law.

Stephanie: I&#039;m thinking of banning Libba. Just to protect our computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bookwormchris: Yeah, there is a lot of pressure on boys not to touch girl books. Yay you for resisting it.</p>
<p>Diana: Yeah, there&#8217;s so much to annoy in that article. You&#8217;re so right about the equal genericness of the covers of capital L Literachure books. And, frequently, of their contents too. Oh, look, another middle aged uni professor is having a crisis and sleeping with his students. *yawn*</p>
<p>Maggie: You&#8217;re a girl you write girl books. They can only be read on beaches. It&#8217;s the law.</p>
<p>Stephanie: I&#8217;m thinking of banning Libba. Just to protect our computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw Justine&#039;s tweet and carefully put down my drink before reading Libba&#039;s comment. Thank God. This keyboard is discontinued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw Justine&#8217;s tweet and carefully put down my drink before reading Libba&#8217;s comment. Thank God. This keyboard is discontinued.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Stiefvater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie Stiefvater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grrrr! I came here from your Twitter and promptly my blood began to re-boil. It had already boiled once after I&#039;d gotten an early review for SHIVER that designated it an appropriate &quot;beach read.&quot; What does that even mean? That I wrote my ass off for that book and it&#039;s fluff? That it would read better with the soothing lullaby of waves in the background? That the plotting was intricate enough to remind the reader that her tankini kept riding up?

I personally despise gender tailoring covers (be it the whambang masculine thriller covers or the daisies and butt shot girl YA ones) and loved that my publisher did neither for SHIVER. But apparently it wasn&#039;t enough to escape the might web/ vortex of kissy beach read designation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grrrr! I came here from your Twitter and promptly my blood began to re-boil. It had already boiled once after I&#8217;d gotten an early review for SHIVER that designated it an appropriate &#8220;beach read.&#8221; What does that even mean? That I wrote my ass off for that book and it&#8217;s fluff? That it would read better with the soothing lullaby of waves in the background? That the plotting was intricate enough to remind the reader that her tankini kept riding up?</p>
<p>I personally despise gender tailoring covers (be it the whambang masculine thriller covers or the daisies and butt shot girl YA ones) and loved that my publisher did neither for SHIVER. But apparently it wasn&#8217;t enough to escape the might web/ vortex of kissy beach read designation.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Peterfreund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Peterfreund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah. Blood pressure.

I love the bit about how it&#039;s &quot;generic&quot; to put a LOOOOOOOONG list of things on a cover. You know what else is generic? The empty chairs in white washed houses, or lamplights on empty streets, or silhouettes of cities on &quot;boy book&quot; covers. 

Book covers are generic. Newsflash.

F***tards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah. Blood pressure.</p>
<p>I love the bit about how it&#8217;s &#8220;generic&#8221; to put a LOOOOOOOONG list of things on a cover. You know what else is generic? The empty chairs in white washed houses, or lamplights on empty streets, or silhouettes of cities on &#8220;boy book&#8221; covers. </p>
<p>Book covers are generic. Newsflash.</p>
<p>F***tards.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only book I ever really remember reading at the beach was my anatomy and physiology textbook, which I took to study in the middle of winter, to get away from distractions.  Every other time I went to the beach I was swimming or walking or looking for shells or playing with some kids, either mine or someone else&#039;s, depending on my age. Does that make A and P a frivolous subject? My teacher would probably beg to differ.

Dividing things up by gender annoys me. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever picked a book because it was supposed to be for a specific gender, or because a specific gender wrote it. 

But I am a bit of a hypocrite because seeing a man or boy reading a book that&#039;s marketed as a girl&#039;s or women&#039;s book makes me smile. I feel a secret kinship that dates back to when I used to get lectured for reading boy&#039;s books when I was young. &quot;Wouldn&#039;t you rather read Nancy Drew?&quot; Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only book I ever really remember reading at the beach was my anatomy and physiology textbook, which I took to study in the middle of winter, to get away from distractions.  Every other time I went to the beach I was swimming or walking or looking for shells or playing with some kids, either mine or someone else&#8217;s, depending on my age. Does that make A and P a frivolous subject? My teacher would probably beg to differ.</p>
<p>Dividing things up by gender annoys me. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever picked a book because it was supposed to be for a specific gender, or because a specific gender wrote it. </p>
<p>But I am a bit of a hypocrite because seeing a man or boy reading a book that&#8217;s marketed as a girl&#8217;s or women&#8217;s book makes me smile. I feel a secret kinship that dates back to when I used to get lectured for reading boy&#8217;s books when I was young. &#8220;Wouldn&#8217;t you rather read Nancy Drew?&#8221; Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: bookwormchris</title>
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		<dc:creator>bookwormchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is Maureen&#039;s The Bermudez Triangle that I have which features the splashproof cover. When I first opened the box from Amazon, I was somewhat confused. Is this reading a book on the beach thing popular?

Of course, my roommate keeps joking that he thinks I am a homosexual because of the books he sees on my desks. You know, those YA ones with headless girls on them. Or pink with a big key. Actually, most of those books are Maureen&#039;s. I also have E. Lockhart&#039;s Disreputable History. Clearly these books seem to be marketed towards female readers. This is fine with me, because I don&#039;t care overly much about what a book looks like and I&#039;ve enjoyed reading them. I do get a little annoyed at the constant ribbing I get for having these books around, as a 21 year old straight male. 

Last year I read about 60 books. Overwhelmingly they were written by men. Many of them were books I had read before. This year my goal is to match or beat the 60 books number. (So far I&#039;m on 34 as I recall.) I want to branch out a bit more with my reading as well. So far this has meant a lot more female writers (or... most of the works of a few female authors.) Some of these are very recent books and some are quite old. (There are also a few books which I read mostly, but didn&#039;t read completely for class. They aren&#039;t counted in the list.)

I&#039;ve been looking around for numbers on the breakdown of say how many books have been published by men as opposed to women in the last year or decade or century. Just curious as it will be interesting to see how that breakdown compares with the breakdown of my list at the end of this year. So far it is about half and half I think, but I haven&#039;t tallied it up in the last few weeks. Still, I care more about how good books are, rather than the sex of their authors. 

I&#039;m a fiction kind of bookworm, at least currently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is Maureen&#8217;s The Bermudez Triangle that I have which features the splashproof cover. When I first opened the box from Amazon, I was somewhat confused. Is this reading a book on the beach thing popular?</p>
<p>Of course, my roommate keeps joking that he thinks I am a homosexual because of the books he sees on my desks. You know, those YA ones with headless girls on them. Or pink with a big key. Actually, most of those books are Maureen&#8217;s. I also have E. Lockhart&#8217;s Disreputable History. Clearly these books seem to be marketed towards female readers. This is fine with me, because I don&#8217;t care overly much about what a book looks like and I&#8217;ve enjoyed reading them. I do get a little annoyed at the constant ribbing I get for having these books around, as a 21 year old straight male. </p>
<p>Last year I read about 60 books. Overwhelmingly they were written by men. Many of them were books I had read before. This year my goal is to match or beat the 60 books number. (So far I&#8217;m on 34 as I recall.) I want to branch out a bit more with my reading as well. So far this has meant a lot more female writers (or&#8230; most of the works of a few female authors.) Some of these are very recent books and some are quite old. (There are also a few books which I read mostly, but didn&#8217;t read completely for class. They aren&#8217;t counted in the list.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been looking around for numbers on the breakdown of say how many books have been published by men as opposed to women in the last year or decade or century. Just curious as it will be interesting to see how that breakdown compares with the breakdown of my list at the end of this year. So far it is about half and half I think, but I haven&#8217;t tallied it up in the last few weeks. Still, I care more about how good books are, rather than the sex of their authors. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a fiction kind of bookworm, at least currently.</p>
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		<title>By: caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barking Spiders! I nearly sprayed a ginger altoid all over the &#039;puter (at work no wine) just picturing the cover of Libba&#039;s ahem upcoming  novel.</description>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chhh-- some chicks like to read in the mountains,on the train and in the bathtub.They lose a whole group of us when they assume we like to read at the beach only. Some of us hate sand.

Really, I am depressed now. as an aspiring writer, it saddens me that women writers are lumped together so thoughtlessly. A persons work, regardless of gender should be allowed to stand on its own merits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chhh&#8211; some chicks like to read in the mountains,on the train and in the bathtub.They lose a whole group of us when they assume we like to read at the beach only. Some of us hate sand.</p>
<p>Really, I am depressed now. as an aspiring writer, it saddens me that women writers are lumped together so thoughtlessly. A persons work, regardless of gender should be allowed to stand on its own merits.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Vail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Vail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libba - if I&#039;d had some wine I too would have sprayed -- but Justine, you have pointed me in the right direction. Thanks! Off to pop a cork...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libba &#8211; if I&#8217;d had some wine I too would have sprayed &#8212; but Justine, you have pointed me in the right direction. Thanks! Off to pop a cork&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is such a frustrating article!
In all honesty, I don&#039;t even look to see if a book is written by a man or a woman until after I&#039;ve decided the book is worth reading.
I will say that the design of a cover does have an effect on readers (I&#039;ve done a lot of stuff with design, so it has an even greater effect), and I do tend to shy away from the very generic pink with feet and beachtype covers. A cover should represent either the story or the style of the novel, in my opinion, and I&#039;m just not into reading books about feet or books with a beachy tone (whatever that might be).
I think that both publishers and critics put women authors (and consumers looking for a good read) at a disadvantage, but so do stores that have displays of &quot;beach books&quot; or books just by women authors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is such a frustrating article!<br />
In all honesty, I don&#8217;t even look to see if a book is written by a man or a woman until after I&#8217;ve decided the book is worth reading.<br />
I will say that the design of a cover does have an effect on readers (I&#8217;ve done a lot of stuff with design, so it has an even greater effect), and I do tend to shy away from the very generic pink with feet and beachtype covers. A cover should represent either the story or the style of the novel, in my opinion, and I&#8217;m just not into reading books about feet or books with a beachy tone (whatever that might be).<br />
I think that both publishers and critics put women authors (and consumers looking for a good read) at a disadvantage, but so do stores that have displays of &#8220;beach books&#8221; or books just by women authors.</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, so many great comments. Thanks! Glad I&#039;m not the only one annoyed.

Libba: You just made me spray wine all over my computer. Thanks a million. STOP BEING FUNNY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, so many great comments. Thanks! Glad I&#8217;m not the only one annoyed.</p>
<p>Libba: You just made me spray wine all over my computer. Thanks a million. STOP BEING FUNNY!</p>
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		<title>By: libba</title>
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		<dc:creator>libba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This annoyed me so much that I threw my flowers down into the sand at my feet, ate a shitload of cake, and collapsed into a pastel Adirondack chair in front of my lonely-yet-windswept/cozy house in the dunes. Then someone had to throw a bucket of beach water in my face to revive me. Thankfully, as a woman writer, I come fully laminated in a bright pink splash-proof cover. 

Now I must go work on my next novel: The Scrote-Sack of Summer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This annoyed me so much that I threw my flowers down into the sand at my feet, ate a shitload of cake, and collapsed into a pastel Adirondack chair in front of my lonely-yet-windswept/cozy house in the dunes. Then someone had to throw a bucket of beach water in my face to revive me. Thankfully, as a woman writer, I come fully laminated in a bright pink splash-proof cover. </p>
<p>Now I must go work on my next novel: The Scrote-Sack of Summer.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are also lots of female readers who shun pink covers with feet on - that would be me, usually, except that I was proved wrong recently when someone held me down and forced me to read one (ok, someone I respect recommended a book that happened to have feet on the cover) and I found it to be clever, funny and totally my cup of tea. So I think it also works against the publishers&#039; favour.

I very nearly got away with a non-pink, non-very-girly cover for my forthcoming YA novel, but at the last minute it was decided to change it - it&#039;s now ultra-pink and has a handbag on it and a girl with flicky hair, none of which is representative of the content of the book, but all of which is the current language of teen books aimed at girls. 

All of this goes so much further back than the publishers / booksellers though. For example, my son currently rides his big sister&#039;s old pink scooter - people say to me &quot;Isn&#039;t it sweet that he doesn&#039;t mind it&#039;s pink.&quot; He&#039;s 2! How does that sort of thing even start occurring to boys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are also lots of female readers who shun pink covers with feet on &#8211; that would be me, usually, except that I was proved wrong recently when someone held me down and forced me to read one (ok, someone I respect recommended a book that happened to have feet on the cover) and I found it to be clever, funny and totally my cup of tea. So I think it also works against the publishers&#8217; favour.</p>
<p>I very nearly got away with a non-pink, non-very-girly cover for my forthcoming YA novel, but at the last minute it was decided to change it &#8211; it&#8217;s now ultra-pink and has a handbag on it and a girl with flicky hair, none of which is representative of the content of the book, but all of which is the current language of teen books aimed at girls. </p>
<p>All of this goes so much further back than the publishers / booksellers though. For example, my son currently rides his big sister&#8217;s old pink scooter &#8211; people say to me &#8220;Isn&#8217;t it sweet that he doesn&#8217;t mind it&#8217;s pink.&#8221; He&#8217;s 2! How does that sort of thing even start occurring to boys?</p>
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		<title>By: caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, feet! Recently, a co-worker and I did a display of YA covers with feet on them. You guessed it all aimed at teen girls.  Also, go into any bookstore and look at the differences between mother&#039;s day and father&#039;s day displays.  As if women can&#039;t like sports or grilling and men have no interest in crafts or baking.  UGH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, feet! Recently, a co-worker and I did a display of YA covers with feet on them. You guessed it all aimed at teen girls.  Also, go into any bookstore and look at the differences between mother&#8217;s day and father&#8217;s day displays.  As if women can&#8217;t like sports or grilling and men have no interest in crafts or baking.  UGH!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the covers is that if a book is written by a woman, the publisher markets it exclusively towards women (though it does seem that they have a somewhat misguided, generic way of doing so). They do it because guys simply don&#039;t read as much as girls. 

As a young guy, I read any book that I want to read, Sci-Fi, fantasy, &quot;chik-lit&quot; or whatever. But I can hardly represent my peers as they&#039;re much more interested in video games and paintball than books, and even when they do get out and read they won&#039;t get anywhere near books that have &quot;girly&quot; covers. 

So boys don&#039;t read, because the covers scare them away by being too &quot;girly,&quot; and the publishers make more girly covers because they&#039;re not going to get a significant amount of male readers anyway, so why not advertise to girls? 

The way boys feel about books is a big problem. A few weeks ago I was reading on the bus. A guy asked me what I was reading so I showed him the cover. 
&quot;That&#039;s a chick book! What, did your balls drop off?&quot; 
This didn&#039;t bother me much, but this view of books as a girl thing is a significant block to boys reading. 
I was reading An Abundance of Katherines by John Green. It happened to have pictures of girls on the cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the covers is that if a book is written by a woman, the publisher markets it exclusively towards women (though it does seem that they have a somewhat misguided, generic way of doing so). They do it because guys simply don&#8217;t read as much as girls. </p>
<p>As a young guy, I read any book that I want to read, Sci-Fi, fantasy, &#8220;chik-lit&#8221; or whatever. But I can hardly represent my peers as they&#8217;re much more interested in video games and paintball than books, and even when they do get out and read they won&#8217;t get anywhere near books that have &#8220;girly&#8221; covers. </p>
<p>So boys don&#8217;t read, because the covers scare them away by being too &#8220;girly,&#8221; and the publishers make more girly covers because they&#8217;re not going to get a significant amount of male readers anyway, so why not advertise to girls? </p>
<p>The way boys feel about books is a big problem. A few weeks ago I was reading on the bus. A guy asked me what I was reading so I showed him the cover.<br />
&#8220;That&#8217;s a chick book! What, did your balls drop off?&#8221;<br />
This didn&#8217;t bother me much, but this view of books as a girl thing is a significant block to boys reading.<br />
I was reading An Abundance of Katherines by John Green. It happened to have pictures of girls on the cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Luper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Luper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have felt this way for years. Blaming it solely on the reviewers and the media is shortsighted though. Marketing at the publishers are responsible for capitalizing on this. Pink covers. Splashproof covers. Cover designs that accentuate fashion and shopping. Is selling books at the expense of marginalizing female authors okay? I don&#039;t think so.

But this double standard is so prevalent. There is a 6000-word article in this week&#039;s New York magazine about New York&#039;s junior senator, Kirsten Gillibrand, and they talk about what shoes she wears. As though her footwear affects her ability to legislate!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have felt this way for years. Blaming it solely on the reviewers and the media is shortsighted though. Marketing at the publishers are responsible for capitalizing on this. Pink covers. Splashproof covers. Cover designs that accentuate fashion and shopping. Is selling books at the expense of marginalizing female authors okay? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>But this double standard is so prevalent. There is a 6000-word article in this week&#8217;s New York magazine about New York&#8217;s junior senator, Kirsten Gillibrand, and they talk about what shoes she wears. As though her footwear affects her ability to legislate!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Vail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Vail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree -- I read that article this morning and my teeth have been on edge ever since. Not only because my current book has a pink cover (and the one coming out next year has, as suggested in the last sentence of the article, &quot;a pair of glossy high-heeled shoes&quot; on the cover.) My head is exploding, too, as I wonder what chance any of my novels has of being considered  as anything outside a tight ghetto clump of booksbywomen. Irving, Updike -- the character in COMMENCEMENT is absolutely right about what would happen if their first names had been Susan instead of John.

But as John Green points out, this is not just bad for women writers -- it&#039;s bad for all of us. When boys are taught subtly or not-so-subtly that they should only like books written by GUYS, and really only fantasy or SF or non-fiction -- nothing about friendship or feelings! - how will they get that to that amazing moment passionate readers feel when in the grip of a great novel? A good book is the gateway drug to lifelong reading addiction; the widest possible choice of books is the best chance to ensnare people who might not otherwise get hooked. We put more than half the books published off-limits to boys, and then we lament that boys don&#039;t read? And that men don&#039;t know how to express their feelings and are emotionally remote? 

Maybe if we didn&#039;t hang a big NO BOYS OR MEN ALLOWED  sign on books written by (of all things) women, a guy might pick up one of these disparate books -- and get swept away, even if he&#039;s not at the beach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8212; I read that article this morning and my teeth have been on edge ever since. Not only because my current book has a pink cover (and the one coming out next year has, as suggested in the last sentence of the article, &#8220;a pair of glossy high-heeled shoes&#8221; on the cover.) My head is exploding, too, as I wonder what chance any of my novels has of being considered  as anything outside a tight ghetto clump of booksbywomen. Irving, Updike &#8212; the character in COMMENCEMENT is absolutely right about what would happen if their first names had been Susan instead of John.</p>
<p>But as John Green points out, this is not just bad for women writers &#8212; it&#8217;s bad for all of us. When boys are taught subtly or not-so-subtly that they should only like books written by GUYS, and really only fantasy or SF or non-fiction &#8212; nothing about friendship or feelings! &#8211; how will they get that to that amazing moment passionate readers feel when in the grip of a great novel? A good book is the gateway drug to lifelong reading addiction; the widest possible choice of books is the best chance to ensnare people who might not otherwise get hooked. We put more than half the books published off-limits to boys, and then we lament that boys don&#8217;t read? And that men don&#8217;t know how to express their feelings and are emotionally remote? </p>
<p>Maybe if we didn&#8217;t hang a big NO BOYS OR MEN ALLOWED  sign on books written by (of all things) women, a guy might pick up one of these disparate books &#8212; and get swept away, even if he&#8217;s not at the beach.</p>
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