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		<title>By: Girls in YA Lit &#171; ECYA Blog</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/08/an-open-letter-to-all-publishers/comment-page-1/#comment-83640</link>
		<dc:creator>Girls in YA Lit &#171; ECYA Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the comments!), this is an interesting thing to know. (Some responses to the plea can be seen here: Justine Larbalestier, Lisa [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Buchheit</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/08/an-open-letter-to-all-publishers/comment-page-1/#comment-81289</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Buchheit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other day when I was in half-price books they had a few by Clifford Simac. So I added to my collection, but one book that was heavily water damaged I almost bought just as a relic. It had a glossy ad for cigarettes bound smack in the middle of the book.

And just like Stephanie, I get so tired of the &quot;rotating logo now with fire&quot; conversations about design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other day when I was in half-price books they had a few by Clifford Simac. So I added to my collection, but one book that was heavily water damaged I almost bought just as a relic. It had a glossy ad for cigarettes bound smack in the middle of the book.</p>
<p>And just like Stephanie, I get so tired of the &#8220;rotating logo now with fire&#8221; conversations about design.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/08/an-open-letter-to-all-publishers/comment-page-1/#comment-81287</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with you on both points, Justine. And as a publisher, I have the power to make it so. Huzzah!

On a related note, I recently read the ebook of John Green&#039;s Looking for Alaska and had to plough through pages and pages of ads for his next book and an interview with the author ... after the prologue and before the book had even started. Huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with you on both points, Justine. And as a publisher, I have the power to make it so. Huzzah!</p>
<p>On a related note, I recently read the ebook of John Green&#8217;s Looking for Alaska and had to plough through pages and pages of ads for his next book and an interview with the author &#8230; after the prologue and before the book had even started. Huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Diana Peterfreund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana Peterfreund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie, you sound like a designer after my own heart. When I was looking for web designers, though, they all wanted all this fra-la and fripperie stuff that took ten minutes to load before you got to any content at all. They&#039;d learned all this cool java stuff in their web designing classes and wanted to play with it, rather than make me a useful website. Pretty and all, but not what I wanted.

Pixelfish, I agree. It&#039;s also tough because sometimes editor have their pet words that you see cropping up over and over again on cover copy. I&#039;ve definitely had to ask for changes that described consecutive (and really different) romantic relationships in my series as &quot;imploding.&quot; And don&#039;t get me started on spoilers! I have a standing rule that copywriters are not allowed to include in a blurb anything that happens after the midpoint in my book (and/or synopsis). But it&#039;s not a rule that&#039;s been followed with any regularity. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie, you sound like a designer after my own heart. When I was looking for web designers, though, they all wanted all this fra-la and fripperie stuff that took ten minutes to load before you got to any content at all. They&#8217;d learned all this cool java stuff in their web designing classes and wanted to play with it, rather than make me a useful website. Pretty and all, but not what I wanted.</p>
<p>Pixelfish, I agree. It&#8217;s also tough because sometimes editor have their pet words that you see cropping up over and over again on cover copy. I&#8217;ve definitely had to ask for changes that described consecutive (and really different) romantic relationships in my series as &#8220;imploding.&#8221; And don&#8217;t get me started on spoilers! I have a standing rule that copywriters are not allowed to include in a blurb anything that happens after the midpoint in my book (and/or synopsis). But it&#8217;s not a rule that&#8217;s been followed with any regularity. <img src='http://justinelarbalestier.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pixelfish</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/08/an-open-letter-to-all-publishers/comment-page-1/#comment-81205</link>
		<dc:creator>Pixelfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cover copy sins are the worst to my mind. (Particularly in omnibus editions where multiple books reside within.)

I sometimes really think marketers needs to stop trying to play with their crystal ball and just tell the meat of the premise, instead of trying to play adjective soup and convince a particular demographic. (For every demographic you try to blatantly hit with your marketing rhetoric, there&#039;s half a dozen more going, &quot;Oh, I guess this isn&#039;t for me,&quot; and putting the book back down.)

But sometimes I wish they&#039;d leave major plot points out of the cover copy. I spent the first few chapters of a book recently wondering when a certain character was going to die, because it said so right on the jacket copy. I think it would have been better and more impactful if they&#039;d left that major plot curve out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cover copy sins are the worst to my mind. (Particularly in omnibus editions where multiple books reside within.)</p>
<p>I sometimes really think marketers needs to stop trying to play with their crystal ball and just tell the meat of the premise, instead of trying to play adjective soup and convince a particular demographic. (For every demographic you try to blatantly hit with your marketing rhetoric, there&#8217;s half a dozen more going, &#8220;Oh, I guess this isn&#8217;t for me,&#8221; and putting the book back down.)</p>
<p>But sometimes I wish they&#8217;d leave major plot points out of the cover copy. I spent the first few chapters of a book recently wondering when a certain character was going to die, because it said so right on the jacket copy. I think it would have been better and more impactful if they&#8217;d left that major plot curve out.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Yeffeth</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/08/an-open-letter-to-all-publishers/comment-page-1/#comment-81204</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Yeffeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a publisher I accept your demands.

Also, it&#039;s not a bad idea to let the author look over the cover copy before it&#039;s designed. We&#039;ve avoided some real problems that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a publisher I accept your demands.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s not a bad idea to let the author look over the cover copy before it&#8217;s designed. We&#8217;ve avoided some real problems that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan: There&#039;s nothing wrong with ads in books. My objection is to anything appearing immediately after the end of the book. All I want is some blank pages. Then they can have ads for books and whatever they want.

As for your question some houses have a set style for where the acks go. Some will consult authors. Some won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan: There&#8217;s nothing wrong with ads in books. My objection is to anything appearing immediately after the end of the book. All I want is some blank pages. Then they can have ads for books and whatever they want.</p>
<p>As for your question some houses have a set style for where the acks go. Some will consult authors. Some won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>am i naïve, but I would have thought that acknowledgements, dedications, index &amp;c. are editorial content -- on the same lines as the ms -- and under the control (or at least the approval) of the author...

are there fixed rules in the matter? a dedication is often set out at the begining, but acknowledgements can surely be at the front or back, as the author thinks best.

advertising, yuk. no thanks.

but then again, what is the real difference between an ad and a couple of blank pages and then a list of other books by the same author? or other books in the same collection? [personally I discovered many an author through the back pages of Puffin books...]. it probably all comes down to a matter of respect: if the layout and whitespace at the end of the book respect the reader, then this is seen as information, even a continuing of the conversation, rather than advertising. however when it arrives as an intrusion, then, yes, it can break the tone, the silence that extends beyond the book and into the moment, and intrude, even ruin the experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>am i naïve, but I would have thought that acknowledgements, dedications, index &amp;c. are editorial content &#8212; on the same lines as the ms &#8212; and under the control (or at least the approval) of the author&#8230;</p>
<p>are there fixed rules in the matter? a dedication is often set out at the begining, but acknowledgements can surely be at the front or back, as the author thinks best.</p>
<p>advertising, yuk. no thanks.</p>
<p>but then again, what is the real difference between an ad and a couple of blank pages and then a list of other books by the same author? or other books in the same collection? [personally I discovered many an author through the back pages of Puffin books...]. it probably all comes down to a matter of respect: if the layout and whitespace at the end of the book respect the reader, then this is seen as information, even a continuing of the conversation, rather than advertising. however when it arrives as an intrusion, then, yes, it can break the tone, the silence that extends beyond the book and into the moment, and intrude, even ruin the experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Leary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate acknowledgments at the front of the book! As a web designer, I&#039;m constantly trying to get people to skip the useless intro stuff: Flash splash pages, pointless &quot;welcome to our site&quot; text, that sort of thing -- and get right to the point! Acknowledgments at the front of a book feels the same, and makes me start losing interest in the book before I&#039;ve even gotten to the story. (Woe to the author who has acks AND an author&#039;s note AND a prologue.)

That said, it&#039;s just as bad to have the acks in the back if they don&#039;t have a proper heading. I hate turning my attention to the next the page, thinking there&#039;s more story, only to be confronted with something else entirely. 

Design matters. The story needs to be clearly separated from the not-story bits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate acknowledgments at the front of the book! As a web designer, I&#8217;m constantly trying to get people to skip the useless intro stuff: Flash splash pages, pointless &#8220;welcome to our site&#8221; text, that sort of thing &#8212; and get right to the point! Acknowledgments at the front of a book feels the same, and makes me start losing interest in the book before I&#8217;ve even gotten to the story. (Woe to the author who has acks AND an author&#8217;s note AND a prologue.)</p>
<p>That said, it&#8217;s just as bad to have the acks in the back if they don&#8217;t have a proper heading. I hate turning my attention to the next the page, thinking there&#8217;s more story, only to be confronted with something else entirely. </p>
<p>Design matters. The story needs to be clearly separated from the not-story bits.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were spoilery for Scott&#039;s books, for sure. Hehehehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were spoilery for Scott&#8217;s books, for sure. Hehehehe.</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/06/08/an-open-letter-to-all-publishers/comment-page-1/#comment-81197</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca: I hated the SS acks being at the front. They were totally spoilery. Much better at the end.

Writers frequently thank people who helped with their research or list books they used in the acks. So if they&#039;re at the front and they&#039;ve thanked an explosives expert I spend the whole book waiting for the explosion. Not good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca: I hated the SS acks being at the front. They were totally spoilery. Much better at the end.</p>
<p>Writers frequently thank people who helped with their research or list books they used in the acks. So if they&#8217;re at the front and they&#8217;ve thanked an explosives expert I spend the whole book waiting for the explosion. Not good.</p>
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		<title>By: Nosidam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nosidam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree whole-heartedly with this blog post. Do you know what else makes me angry? When the book jacket blurb highlights on events that don&#039;t happen until halfway through the book. Another thing that makes me mad is when you look up a book on Amazon and it practically gives you a summery of the book. They should post a spoiler warning or something. You can entice someone to read a book without divulging all of the details of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree whole-heartedly with this blog post. Do you know what else makes me angry? When the book jacket blurb highlights on events that don&#8217;t happen until halfway through the book. Another thing that makes me mad is when you look up a book on Amazon and it practically gives you a summery of the book. They should post a spoiler warning or something. You can entice someone to read a book without divulging all of the details of the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so agree on point number two. I have a burning hatred for ads, even more so when they&#039;re in bad taste or purposefully obnoxious.

The only exception I make to point number one (that I can remember, anyway), is &lt;em&gt;Suite Scarlett&lt;/em&gt;. Because I am a weird person who reads the acknowledgments, and &lt;em&gt;Suite Scarlett&lt;/em&gt;&#039;s was actually funny, but it really doesn&#039;t make as much sense at the end of the book (which they moved it to for the paperback). I was sad. I have to say I&#039;ve never had a book spoiled by the acknowledgments, though. I always get spoiled by the prologues, and I skip them half the time because of that. Sometimes I feel like certain prologues weren&#039;t the author&#039;s idea at all. But putting spoilers in the acknowledgments makes noooo sense. Maybe the author didn&#039;t know the publisher was going to stick them at the front?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so agree on point number two. I have a burning hatred for ads, even more so when they&#8217;re in bad taste or purposefully obnoxious.</p>
<p>The only exception I make to point number one (that I can remember, anyway), is <em>Suite Scarlett</em>. Because I am a weird person who reads the acknowledgments, and <em>Suite Scarlett</em>&#8217;s was actually funny, but it really doesn&#8217;t make as much sense at the end of the book (which they moved it to for the paperback). I was sad. I have to say I&#8217;ve never had a book spoiled by the acknowledgments, though. I always get spoiled by the prologues, and I skip them half the time because of that. Sometimes I feel like certain prologues weren&#8217;t the author&#8217;s idea at all. But putting spoilers in the acknowledgments makes noooo sense. Maybe the author didn&#8217;t know the publisher was going to stick them at the front?</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Megan: You can&#039;t just say that acks belong at the beginning of the book with no justification. 

Why do want to be spoiled before you begin a book?

Madness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megan: You can&#8217;t just say that acks belong at the beginning of the book with no justification. </p>
<p>Why do want to be spoiled before you begin a book?</p>
<p>Madness!</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 09:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm that&#039;s an interesting point!
However I disagree with you - I think acknowledgements belong at the beginning of a novel!
I agree with the no-ad policy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm that&#8217;s an interesting point!<br />
However I disagree with you &#8211; I think acknowledgements belong at the beginning of a novel!<br />
I agree with the no-ad policy!</p>
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		<title>By: Paige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what publishers would say if they read that?</description>
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		<title>By: Icy Roses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Icy Roses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 04:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I SO agree with your first complaint.  You think I&#039;d learn after having at least two or three books spoiled that way--and I&#039;m not a big spoiler freak; I&#039;ll keep reading even if I can guess the end--but I still read those acknowledgments, and I still think, &quot;Why did I do that?&quot; after I do.    My life would be a lot better if plots weren&#039;t ruined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I SO agree with your first complaint.  You think I&#8217;d learn after having at least two or three books spoiled that way&#8211;and I&#8217;m not a big spoiler freak; I&#8217;ll keep reading even if I can guess the end&#8211;but I still read those acknowledgments, and I still think, &#8220;Why did I do that?&#8221; after I do.    My life would be a lot better if plots weren&#8217;t ruined.</p>
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