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		<title>By: Brynzapoppin</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-81125</link>
		<dc:creator>Brynzapoppin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I&#039;m glad to hear you know about Frankie Manning. If you haven&#039;t already, you should definitely read his book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Frankie-Manning-Ambassador-Lindy-Hop/dp/1592135641/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1244213083&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Frankie Manning: Ambassador of Lindy Hop&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I&#8217;m glad to hear you know about Frankie Manning. If you haven&#8217;t already, you should definitely read his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Frankie-Manning-Ambassador-Lindy-Hop/dp/1592135641/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1244213083&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Frankie Manning: Ambassador of Lindy Hop</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Brynzapoppin</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-81123</link>
		<dc:creator>Brynzapoppin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I teach/perform/coach lindy hop for part of my living, and I guarantee you it is not the dangerous dance you&#039;re making it out to be. The dancing in the video clip you&#039;re referring to is extreme and was performed by some of the best lindy hoppers who ever lived. Once you get to their level, the crazy stuff they&#039;re doing isn&#039;t dangerous anymore because you know how to do it properly. 

My question is, how do you define having &quot;learned&quot; lindy hop. You can pick up a couple basic steps within a lesson or two -- enough to get through the night with some semblance of familiarity with the dance. But it can take months or even years to get to the point where you&#039;re dancing it reasonably competently, many more years before you reach an advanced level, and you can easily spend the rest of your life trying to actually master it. So I&#039;d be more concerned with the time commitment than with the possibility of injury if I were you. But once you start, you might not mind that part. Don&#039;t be surprised if you catch the bug!

As for whether or not I think you need to learn lindy hop in order to write about it: yes. Not only that, but you need to get to know the people and the culture. Now, I realize that you&#039;re writing about the 1930s and not the contemporary lindy hop scene, but by getting to know today&#039;s dancers, you can avoid many of the disastrous stereotypes we usually see plastered all over the media. We can also be a wealthy source of information about the way things were back in the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach/perform/coach lindy hop for part of my living, and I guarantee you it is not the dangerous dance you&#8217;re making it out to be. The dancing in the video clip you&#8217;re referring to is extreme and was performed by some of the best lindy hoppers who ever lived. Once you get to their level, the crazy stuff they&#8217;re doing isn&#8217;t dangerous anymore because you know how to do it properly. </p>
<p>My question is, how do you define having &#8220;learned&#8221; lindy hop. You can pick up a couple basic steps within a lesson or two &#8212; enough to get through the night with some semblance of familiarity with the dance. But it can take months or even years to get to the point where you&#8217;re dancing it reasonably competently, many more years before you reach an advanced level, and you can easily spend the rest of your life trying to actually master it. So I&#8217;d be more concerned with the time commitment than with the possibility of injury if I were you. But once you start, you might not mind that part. Don&#8217;t be surprised if you catch the bug!</p>
<p>As for whether or not I think you need to learn lindy hop in order to write about it: yes. Not only that, but you need to get to know the people and the culture. Now, I realize that you&#8217;re writing about the 1930s and not the contemporary lindy hop scene, but by getting to know today&#8217;s dancers, you can avoid many of the disastrous stereotypes we usually see plastered all over the media. We can also be a wealthy source of information about the way things were back in the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-81120</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please email me.  

I am a Lindy Hopper in NY and can introduce you to a number of people who have avidly studied the history behind the dance and can help you with the process of starting to learn the dance.  

Some of us found your website while checking out bing.com and searching &quot;Lindy Hop&quot;

I also happen to be a book blogger and recently did a fundraiser on my blog to raise money for BPL&#039;s Save Our Shelves, so I&#039;m thrilled to see someone combining both my loves for charity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please email me.  </p>
<p>I am a Lindy Hopper in NY and can introduce you to a number of people who have avidly studied the history behind the dance and can help you with the process of starting to learn the dance.  </p>
<p>Some of us found your website while checking out bing.com and searching &#8220;Lindy Hop&#8221;</p>
<p>I also happen to be a book blogger and recently did a fundraiser on my blog to raise money for BPL&#8217;s Save Our Shelves, so I&#8217;m thrilled to see someone combining both my loves for charity!</p>
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		<title>By: Janine</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-81111</link>
		<dc:creator>Janine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 00:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random passer-by says:

Usually when learning the Lindy, you don&#039;t start with aerials, unless you can convince somebody with a gym mat and few scruples to throw you around. Generally speaking, you can have a fun and totally period dance without them. In my humble, humble, random-person opinion, getting thrown into the air in an empty studio is much less daunting than going out to a social dance where there are (lots of)Other People. 

My two cents are tossed, have fun, and good luck with your book.</description>
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<p>Usually when learning the Lindy, you don&#8217;t start with aerials, unless you can convince somebody with a gym mat and few scruples to throw you around. Generally speaking, you can have a fun and totally period dance without them. In my humble, humble, random-person opinion, getting thrown into the air in an empty studio is much less daunting than going out to a social dance where there are (lots of)Other People. </p>
<p>My two cents are tossed, have fun, and good luck with your book.</p>
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		<title>By: Maud Newton: Blog</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-80756</link>
		<dc:creator>Maud Newton: Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] moved by a plea from a local librarian, raised $5000 for NYC libraries by promising to learn to lindy hop as research for her next [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Camille</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-80532</link>
		<dc:creator>Camille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes -- Queens Library was MY library growing up and I didn&#039;t realize it was in trouble once I defaulted to NYPublic.  I must pledge.

(Please dance slowly!  We don&#039;t want you hurt!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes &#8212; Queens Library was MY library growing up and I didn&#8217;t realize it was in trouble once I defaulted to NYPublic.  I must pledge.</p>
<p>(Please dance slowly!  We don&#8217;t want you hurt!)</p>
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		<title>By: Q</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-80262</link>
		<dc:creator>Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 19:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But notice that he didn&#039;t die in 1941 as you claim he could have.  Of course, he is a professional.  But you should still learn.  Drag Scott along with you and see if you can&#039;t get John Green to donate another thousand dollars to the NYPL system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But notice that he didn&#8217;t die in 1941 as you claim he could have.  Of course, he is a professional.  But you should still learn.  Drag Scott along with you and see if you can&#8217;t get John Green to donate another thousand dollars to the NYPL system.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia Rios</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-80253</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia Rios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 10:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.</description>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-80245</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 03:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was no video of my tying a Windsor. I took a &lt;a href=&quot;http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/03/20/windsor-project-attempts-the-first-second/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photo of the resulting tie&lt;/a&gt;. There will be no video of the lindy hopping either. Presuming I do it. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sparksflyup.com/2009/05/lindyhop-justine-larbalestier-and.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John Green has agreed&lt;/a&gt; that three eye witnesses will satisfy him. I hope that will satisfy everyone else who&#039;s pledged money. If it doesn&#039;t then I guess they won&#039;t donate it. &lt;i&gt;If&lt;/i&gt; I do this thing. 

If I don&#039;t do it then I&#039;ll cover the amount pledged myself. The NYPL won&#039;t lose out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no video of my tying a Windsor. I took a <a href="http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/03/20/windsor-project-attempts-the-first-second/" rel="nofollow">photo of the resulting tie</a>. There will be no video of the lindy hopping either. Presuming I do it. <a href="http://www.sparksflyup.com/2009/05/lindyhop-justine-larbalestier-and.php" rel="nofollow">John Green has agreed</a> that three eye witnesses will satisfy him. I hope that will satisfy everyone else who&#8217;s pledged money. If it doesn&#8217;t then I guess they won&#8217;t donate it. <i>If</i> I do this thing. </p>
<p>If I don&#8217;t do it then I&#8217;ll cover the amount pledged myself. The NYPL won&#8217;t lose out.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia Rios</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-80242</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia Rios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 02:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You posted about which charities would receive the funds and urged people to look at those charities, which encourages people to pledge money so you&#039;ll feel guilted into Lindy Hopping. That seems like you upping the stakes to me. 

Didn&#039;t you post video of you tying a Windsor? You could always block out your face... I suppose if the idea of your body on film freaks you out though, well one horror at a time. Still, I&#039;m guessing your pledgers will want some sort of juicy proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You posted about which charities would receive the funds and urged people to look at those charities, which encourages people to pledge money so you&#8217;ll feel guilted into Lindy Hopping. That seems like you upping the stakes to me. </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you post video of you tying a Windsor? You could always block out your face&#8230; I suppose if the idea of your body on film freaks you out though, well one horror at a time. Still, I&#8217;m guessing your pledgers will want some sort of juicy proof.</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-80238</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 01:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia: Hey, Green upped the stakes not me! I feel like I should learn all the thirties steps for my book. But, trust me, I REALLY don&#039;t want to. I know I&#039;ll get injured. I always am and I&#039;m already carrying an injury from my last attempt at a sport. Stupid plantar fasciitis. 

As for video. Over my dead body. I have an atavistic horror of being filmed. HATE IT. WON&#039;T DO IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia: Hey, Green upped the stakes not me! I feel like I should learn all the thirties steps for my book. But, trust me, I REALLY don&#8217;t want to. I know I&#8217;ll get injured. I always am and I&#8217;m already carrying an injury from my last attempt at a sport. Stupid plantar fasciitis. </p>
<p>As for video. Over my dead body. I have an atavistic horror of being filmed. HATE IT. WON&#8217;T DO IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Julia Rios</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-80237</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia Rios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 01:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I voted before, because I understand fear of injury, etc. However, it really sounds like you want to do it. Maybe it&#039;s envy of the adrenaline rush you know Maureen Johnson will get from her trapeze school adventure, or maybe it&#039;s because you just want to be one of the cool kids who can say, &quot;Yeah I know how to Lindy Hop.&quot; Whatever the reason, I don&#039;t believe you would keep posting about it, and upping the stakes if you didn&#039;t want to do it. So. Um, I guess I&#039;m another yes vote. Why no video, though? Clearly a video is in order with a challenge like this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I voted before, because I understand fear of injury, etc. However, it really sounds like you want to do it. Maybe it&#8217;s envy of the adrenaline rush you know Maureen Johnson will get from her trapeze school adventure, or maybe it&#8217;s because you just want to be one of the cool kids who can say, &#8220;Yeah I know how to Lindy Hop.&#8221; Whatever the reason, I don&#8217;t believe you would keep posting about it, and upping the stakes if you didn&#8217;t want to do it. So. Um, I guess I&#8217;m another yes vote. Why no video, though? Clearly a video is in order with a challenge like this!</p>
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		<title>By: TansyRR</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-80233</link>
		<dc:creator>TansyRR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 23:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one vital detail missing here - who ELSE is going to participate in this madness?  Looking at the footage, I&#039;m pretty sure you need a partner to play...

Someone with BIG ARMS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one vital detail missing here &#8211; who ELSE is going to participate in this madness?  Looking at the footage, I&#8217;m pretty sure you need a partner to play&#8230;</p>
<p>Someone with BIG ARMS.</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristin: THERE WILL BE NO VIDEO!

caitlin: If I do this thing I will do it properly. I&#039;m not going to cheat like that certain somebody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristin: THERE WILL BE NO VIDEO!</p>
<p>caitlin: If I do this thing I will do it properly. I&#8217;m not going to cheat like that certain somebody.</p>
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		<title>By: caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an idea since John was on the table for about 5 seconds then you need only perform a partial lindy hop. I&#039;m sure John would agree right John?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an idea since John was on the table for about 5 seconds then you need only perform a partial lindy hop. I&#8217;m sure John would agree right John?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 22:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does look like awesome exercise. I&#039;m sure you could choose one of the simpler flips--think of the video you&#039;ll have to post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does look like awesome exercise. I&#8217;m sure you could choose one of the simpler flips&#8211;think of the video you&#8217;ll have to post!</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily: Hey, I haven&#039;t said I&#039;d do it yet! (Here&#039;s hoping the axe does not descend.)

Malcolm: Wow. What a generous offer! That&#039;s a most amusing summary. There was some &lt;i&gt;extremely&lt;/i&gt; dodgy voting on the original thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily: Hey, I haven&#8217;t said I&#8217;d do it yet! (Here&#8217;s hoping the axe does not descend.)</p>
<p>Malcolm: Wow. What a generous offer! That&#8217;s a most amusing summary. There was some <i>extremely</i> dodgy voting on the original thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Tredinnick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm Tredinnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That summary left out a few of the good bits. Here, I&#039;ll fix it for you...

You spend &lt;em&gt;years&lt;/em&gt; carefully cultivating a discerning audience of blog readers and commenters, asking questions and clearly reading the answers that are given. You&#039;ve used this blog for research before and seemed pleased by the response (e.g. an early request for info about lying for what I guess turned into Liar). We, the readers, are, after all, only here to help. Well, there&#039;s a little bit of sniggering that should be beneath us at time, but that&#039;s usually when you poke fun at somebody else.

This time, you asked another reasonable research question. The regular readers commented. Even some of the more irregular ones did. Some of them went out and brought in more survey respondents via their own famous blogs and discerning readers. More people voted. Arbitrary rules like &quot;one person, (only) one vote&quot; were brought in to try and sway the result at the last minute, but to no avail. A disturbingly feminine-looking Abraham Lincoln even came out of hiding to vote (good old honest Abe -- would he not tell you the truth?).

Now, you also tell us that if you don&#039;t learn to dance, the library gets it, so to speak. How is this still an open question? Think of the homeless books. Some of them probably even have pictures of cute kittens in them.

I&#039;ll add $400 to the pot. US dollars, too, as the Australian coconut don&#039;t seem to buy as much as it used to these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That summary left out a few of the good bits. Here, I&#8217;ll fix it for you&#8230;</p>
<p>You spend <em>years</em> carefully cultivating a discerning audience of blog readers and commenters, asking questions and clearly reading the answers that are given. You&#8217;ve used this blog for research before and seemed pleased by the response (e.g. an early request for info about lying for what I guess turned into Liar). We, the readers, are, after all, only here to help. Well, there&#8217;s a little bit of sniggering that should be beneath us at time, but that&#8217;s usually when you poke fun at somebody else.</p>
<p>This time, you asked another reasonable research question. The regular readers commented. Even some of the more irregular ones did. Some of them went out and brought in more survey respondents via their own famous blogs and discerning readers. More people voted. Arbitrary rules like &#8220;one person, (only) one vote&#8221; were brought in to try and sway the result at the last minute, but to no avail. A disturbingly feminine-looking Abraham Lincoln even came out of hiding to vote (good old honest Abe &#8212; would he not tell you the truth?).</p>
<p>Now, you also tell us that if you don&#8217;t learn to dance, the library gets it, so to speak. How is this still an open question? Think of the homeless books. Some of them probably even have pictures of cute kittens in them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll add $400 to the pot. US dollars, too, as the Australian coconut don&#8217;t seem to buy as much as it used to these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily H.</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2009/05/08/lindy-hop-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-80200</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 21:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a BPL librarian who&#039;s probably on the chopping block, thank you for this! You&#039;re awesome. Also, I wish I knew how to lindy hop, but I&#039;ve broken three of my limbs in the last few years, so I need you to go first so I know how dangerous it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a BPL librarian who&#8217;s probably on the chopping block, thank you for this! You&#8217;re awesome. Also, I wish I knew how to lindy hop, but I&#8217;ve broken three of my limbs in the last few years, so I need you to go first so I know how dangerous it is.</p>
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