Words of wisdom
This from Elizabeth Bear:
It’s harder to revise old text to anything like not sucking than just to write new less sucky text from scratch. It’s like the suck gets ossified in.
What she said.
Posted by Justine at 18:34, 29 June 2007 under Bloggery, Writing process | 7 Comments »

- 1930s NYC novel
- Admin
- Basketball
- Battle of the Sexes in Science Fiction
- Best of Blog
- Bloggery
- Book challenges
- Book tour
- Cons & Other Gatherings
- Cricket
- Daughters of Earth
- Excuses
- Fan art
- Fans & readers
- Fashion
- Feminism
- First Kiss
- Food
- Frippery
- Garden
- Guest post
- How To Ditch Your Fairy
- Ideas
- Ironical (This is Writ)
- Last Day of the Year
- Liar
- Liquids
- Listening
- Love is Hell
- Magic or Madness trilogy
- Manga
- Mangosteens
- Musings
- New York City/USA
- Praising
- Publishing business
- RSI
- Ranting
- Reading
- Research
- Science
- Scott's books
- Search Terms
- Sport
- State of the World
- Sydney/Australia
- Team Human
- Titles & names
- Toilets
- Tour de France
- Travelling
- Unicorns
- Vainglory
- Viewing
- What's your fairy?
- Whingeing
- Words & Language
- Writing goals & milestones
- Writing life
- Writing process
- Young Adult literature
- Zombies
- Zombies v Unicorns
Categories
Archives
- Hmmm. I begin to see why I keep breezing by the 666 milestones. @lmashell @whirlingnerdish @aidanbwilson #cheatingiswrong #notcutoutforevil # 2 hours ago
- Cheating! RT: @whirlingnerdish You could just delete one previous tweet, get your number back down to 6665, and then redo your 6666th tweet. # 2 hours ago
- @BCBG25 Right now if @nyliberty have to tank I'd rather we picked Skylar Diggins than Griner. @SGC72 has me convinced we need her more. # 3 hours ago
Recent Comments
- Lorin on You don’t have to read my books
- Mandi on Writing FAQ
- L.H. on A Story What I Wrote in My Late Teens! Avert Thine Eyes! Run for the Hills!
- Madeleine Robins on You don’t have to read my books
- Justine on You don’t have to read my books
- Rachel Neumeier on You don’t have to read my books
- Justine on You don’t have to read my books
- Maria (BearMountainBooks) on You don’t have to read my books
- Sam X on You don’t have to read my books
- Ted Lemon on You don’t have to read my books
- Adalat on FAQ
- Justine on Team Human Fanart
- emily on Team Human Fanart
- Liana on Team Human Fanart
- Justine on Team Human Fanart
Recent Posts
- Cassandra Clare on the Myth that Authors Automatically Condone What We Depict
- You don’t have to read my books
- Team Human Fanart
- A Story What I Wrote in My Late Teens! Avert Thine Eyes! Run for the Hills!
- I’ll Know I’ve Made it as a Writer When . . .
- Why I Cannot Write a Novel With Voice Recognition Software (Updated x 3)
- Writing Goals Reduxing the Redux
- Last Day of 2011 (Updated)
- My Books of Electrons!
- Because No One Should Suffer Alone
- Sekrit Project Revealed!
- Writing Liar with Scrivener
- Feeling Good
- The Misery of Voice Recognition Software
- Photo Request
Best of Blog
- Liar Spoiler Thread (updated)
- January is writing advice month (sticky post) Updated
- How I finished my first novel
- Types of crazy writers
- How to rewrite
- Getting paid, or, don’t quit your day job
- How to write a novel*
- A Writer’s Job (Updated)
- Too Young to Publish
- Average First Novel Advances
- A Beginner’s Guide to Cricket
- Being Dumped is Much Much Worse



Malcolm Tredinnick Says:
You know, that isn’t just true for you creative, talented types. I do a fair bit of technical (IT-related) writing and the same thing is very true in that area. It feels like you’re writing something cohesive and clear. Put it aside for a bit and go back six months later to have another go and the original version looks wrong in a number of ways. Rewriting to fix the odd bits comes close to “restarting” by the end.
It can’t all be due to just getting a bit better every few months, either. When our (humans’) brains get into the flow it helps productivity in the short term, but makes it harder to step back and reconsider alternatives. Probably why I’m impressed when I hear fiction writers talk about throwing out a chapter or 12 because they realised it just wasn’t working in some subtle way. Catching that early must be a relief.
June 29th, 2007 at 7:17 PM
Rebecca Says:
that is why i rewrite so many drafts from scratch. i’d guess that comprises about 50% of them so far. besides, it’s more fun to write new stuff than to dissect that same damn sentence for the 43930753045th time.
June 30th, 2007 at 12:41 AM
Cat Sparks Says:
You know, this makes so much sense. This must be why when I return to my earlier attempts at novels, I can’t clean them up and make them work, even though my writing is far better now than it used to be. Its cos the old ones have suck embedded!
June 30th, 2007 at 9:40 PM
Diana Says:
It is an oft-repeated mantra amongst most of the writers I know: “don’t get it right; get it written,” followed shortly by Nora Roberts advice that “you can’t revise a blank page.”
Frankly, it’s never sat quite right for me. I have a really hard time erasing what’s “happened” once I’ve written it and try to convince myself that something *else* has “happened.”
July 1st, 2007 at 10:17 AM
5. Justine Says:
Malcolm: Good point. I reckon it’s prolly especially when you’re writing code.
Rebecca: Yup and it makes Cynthia’s writing practise seem a lot more sane.
Cat: Yay, for Bear!
Diana: I think the “you can’t revise a blank page” advice is excellent for when you haven’t started writing yet. It frees you up to just type. I’ve certainly found it very useful for getting out of my own way and just writing.
But in rewriting without realising I’m doing it quite a lot of my revision involves deleting chunks and starting over. And most of the time it works heaps better.
Also I don’t think you’re ever revising a blank page. When I’m rewriting even when I’m starting from scratch I still have the original version and what was wrong with it in mind.
July 1st, 2007 at 10:34 AM
Rebecca Says:
whoa, that was cythia who did that crazy thing, with throwing out the drafts! i remember reading about it, but that was before i’d even heard of her. that is so crazy.
July 1st, 2007 at 3:14 PM
Garth Nix Says:
It just confirms that no one piece of writing or editing advice fits all. Or all occasions. Sometimes you can revise old work, and get a great result. Sometimes you do need to start from scratch. Sometimes you just need to pick up a manuscript and put it in a drawer or the bin (trash)* and start something entirely different.
* Actually I never get rid of anything. I save everything, just in case, usually on paper and in electrons, and on several occasions have been very glad I didn’t exterminate a decade-old story or piece of writing I hated at the time.
July 1st, 2007 at 8:23 PM