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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2007/03/21/manga-manga-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-26146</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stick around, Monica. I am a cranky person. There are many rants here and there will be many more. I even have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/?cat=29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ranting&lt;/a&gt; category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stick around, Monica. I am a cranky person. There are many rants here and there will be many more. I even have a <a href="http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/?cat=29" rel="nofollow">ranting</a> category.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2007/03/21/manga-manga-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-26139</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was probably one of the funniest rants I&#039;ve read in awhile. I kick most NYC bookstores on a daily basis myself. LOL!
I miss Coliseum books. Why, oh why did they close down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was probably one of the funniest rants I&#8217;ve read in awhile. I kick most NYC bookstores on a daily basis myself. LOL!<br />
I miss Coliseum books. Why, oh why did they close down.</p>
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		<title>By: oyceter</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2007/03/21/manga-manga-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-25496</link>
		<dc:creator>oyceter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because I am lazy, here is my &lt;a href=&quot;http://oyceter.livejournal.com/432083.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grumpy reaction&lt;/a&gt; to Gravett. Though I have to add the caveat that Mely is right about Gravett covering more of the creation process better, and I suspect that if you read Gravett before reading Schodt, you will be much less grumpy than me. 

Oh! And if you&#039;re willing to go for the slightly more obscure, Sharon Kinsella&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Adult Manga&lt;/i&gt; is a great look at the adult manga industry, a lot of which is a good overview for the manga industry in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because I am lazy, here is my <a href="http://oyceter.livejournal.com/432083.html" rel="nofollow">grumpy reaction</a> to Gravett. Though I have to add the caveat that Mely is right about Gravett covering more of the creation process better, and I suspect that if you read Gravett before reading Schodt, you will be much less grumpy than me. </p>
<p>Oh! And if you&#8217;re willing to go for the slightly more obscure, Sharon Kinsella&#8217;s <i>Adult Manga</i> is a great look at the adult manga industry, a lot of which is a good overview for the manga industry in general.</p>
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		<title>By: kalyn marie</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2007/03/21/manga-manga-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-25369</link>
		<dc:creator>kalyn marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know exactly what ur talking about. my barnes+nobles has a whole book shelf of manga but only a few books in each series (ex. 1, 7, 16, 23...) how messed up is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know exactly what ur talking about. my barnes+nobles has a whole book shelf of manga but only a few books in each series (ex. 1, 7, 16, 23&#8230;) how messed up is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2007/03/21/manga-manga-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-24988</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div style=&quot;text-transform: none;&quot;&gt;There are HEAPS of cricket fans in NYC! They play every weekend out in Queens and Brooklyn. There are heaps and heaps of Indian and Pakistan and Bangladeshi and West Indian immigrants here. There&#039;d be quite the audience for an ODI here. You should see the crowd at Eight Mile Creek where they&#039;re showing all the world cup matches. &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-transform: none;">There are HEAPS of cricket fans in NYC! They play every weekend out in Queens and Brooklyn. There are heaps and heaps of Indian and Pakistan and Bangladeshi and West Indian immigrants here. There&#8217;d be quite the audience for an ODI here. You should see the crowd at Eight Mile Creek where they&#8217;re showing all the world cup matches. </div>
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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2007/03/21/manga-manga-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-24984</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not at all wild about ordering online. I like to go to book shops and get instant gratification which I did today as I traipsed around various Borders until I had a full set of &lt;i&gt;Her Majesty&#039;s Dog&lt;/i&gt;. (Bliss! And yeah, Diana, my brain knows it&#039;s &quot;dog&quot; but for some reason my fingers are convinced it&#039;s &quot;dragon&quot; also my mouth sadly.) Thanks for the Borders tip, Mely.

Also it turns out Scott has an old edition of the Schodt so I&#039;ll read that and then the Gravett. 

Oye and Mely: What are your issues with the Schodt and the Gravett? Too much orientalism? Thanks for the Matt Thorn link.

Marrije: I really loved &lt;i&gt;Buddha&lt;/i&gt; Vol. 1, but maybe it goes down after that? I recommend you get &lt;i&gt;Ode to Kirihito&lt;/i&gt; first because it&#039;s standalone in one volume and it&#039;s total awesomeness. It&#039;s still my fave of all the manga I&#039;ve been reading. I can&#039;t wait to reread it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not at all wild about ordering online. I like to go to book shops and get instant gratification which I did today as I traipsed around various Borders until I had a full set of <i>Her Majesty&#8217;s Dog</i>. (Bliss! And yeah, Diana, my brain knows it&#8217;s &#8220;dog&#8221; but for some reason my fingers are convinced it&#8217;s &#8220;dragon&#8221; also my mouth sadly.) Thanks for the Borders tip, Mely.</p>
<p>Also it turns out Scott has an old edition of the Schodt so I&#8217;ll read that and then the Gravett. </p>
<p>Oye and Mely: What are your issues with the Schodt and the Gravett? Too much orientalism? Thanks for the Matt Thorn link.</p>
<p>Marrije: I really loved <i>Buddha</i> Vol. 1, but maybe it goes down after that? I recommend you get <i>Ode to Kirihito</i> first because it&#8217;s standalone in one volume and it&#8217;s total awesomeness. It&#8217;s still my fave of all the manga I&#8217;ve been reading. I can&#8217;t wait to reread it.</p>
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		<title>By: marrije</title>
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		<dc:creator>marrije</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really, i &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; need more recommendations on my plate. that buddha thing has been eying me whenever i visit the american bookstore on my errands in the hague, but i&#039;m not going to give it satisfaction. will not. will not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really, i <i>don&#8217;t</i> need more recommendations on my plate. that buddha thing has been eying me whenever i visit the american bookstore on my errands in the hague, but i&#8217;m not going to give it satisfaction. will not. will not.</p>
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		<title>By: oyceter</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2007/03/21/manga-manga-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-24933</link>
		<dc:creator>oyceter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ditto Mely&#039;s recs for Schodt and Gravett, though I reacted less well to Gravett. 

I&#039;ve also got a &lt;a href=&quot;http://oyceter.livejournal.com/186779.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;slightly outdated list&lt;/a&gt; of academic articles and whatnot (scroll past all the history stuff), though some of it can be pretty hard to find. Oh! And if you haven&#039;t gone there already, Matt Thorn&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.matt-thorn.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;page&lt;/a&gt; has a lot of his own articles on shoujo manga and BL/yaoi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ditto Mely&#8217;s recs for Schodt and Gravett, though I reacted less well to Gravett. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also got a <a href="http://oyceter.livejournal.com/186779.html" rel="nofollow">slightly outdated list</a> of academic articles and whatnot (scroll past all the history stuff), though some of it can be pretty hard to find. Oh! And if you haven&#8217;t gone there already, Matt Thorn&#8217;s <a href="http://www.matt-thorn.com/" rel="nofollow">page</a> has a lot of his own articles on shoujo manga and BL/yaoi.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I particularly like &quot;her majesty&#039;s dog&quot; volume 5, which has flashbacks. 

I haven&#039;t started &quot;buddha&quot; yet, because it&#039;s about the buddha and I thought it would be boring, New Agey, and preachy. No, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I particularly like &#8220;her majesty&#8217;s dog&#8221; volume 5, which has flashbacks. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t started &#8220;buddha&#8221; yet, because it&#8217;s about the buddha and I thought it would be boring, New Agey, and preachy. No, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Mely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GoComi has a special deal with Borders for distributing &lt;i&gt;Her Majesty&#039;s Dog&lt;/i&gt;, so later volumes are only available in Borders -- they&#039;ll go to general distribution after a delay.

Frederick Schodt is the person people will usually tell you to read for manga background, but I think Paul Gravett&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Manga: Sixty Years of Japanese Comics&lt;/i&gt; is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GoComi has a special deal with Borders for distributing <i>Her Majesty&#8217;s Dog</i>, so later volumes are only available in Borders &#8212; they&#8217;ll go to general distribution after a delay.</p>
<p>Frederick Schodt is the person people will usually tell you to read for manga background, but I think Paul Gravett&#8217;s <i>Manga: Sixty Years of Japanese Comics</i> is better.</p>
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		<title>By: Gillian</title>
		<link>http://justinelarbalestier.com/blog/2007/03/21/manga-manga-manga/comment-page-1/#comment-24878</link>
		<dc:creator>Gillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.addall.com usually has the books everyone else forgets to stock.  If you get complete manga series via this route, though, I want to borrow them (*how* I borrow them when I live in Canebrra and you live everywhere else is perhaps an issue).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.addall.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.addall.com</a> usually has the books everyone else forgets to stock.  If you get complete manga series via this route, though, I want to borrow them (*how* I borrow them when I live in Canebrra and you live everywhere else is perhaps an issue).</p>
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		<title>By: Heather Harper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Harper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.amazon.com/Kapilavastu-Buddha-Vol-Osamu-Tezuka/dp/1932234438</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Kapilavastu-Buddha-Vol-Osamu-Tezuka/dp/1932234438" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Kapilavastu-Buddha-Vol-Osamu-Tezuka/dp/1932234438</a></p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So by &#039;her majesty&#039;s dragon&#039; you really mean &#039;her majesty&#039;s dog,&quot; right? It&#039;s not a manga version of temeraire?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So by &#8216;her majesty&#8217;s dragon&#8217; you really mean &#8216;her majesty&#8217;s dog,&#8221; right? It&#8217;s not a manga version of temeraire?</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer, aka literaticat</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennifer, aka literaticat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we have all the buddha, along with some of those others.  let me check tomorrow when I get to work.  and if I do, I can send them to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we have all the buddha, along with some of those others.  let me check tomorrow when I get to work.  and if I do, I can send them to you.</p>
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		<title>By: february</title>
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		<dc:creator>february</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are there any books about the history and development of manga I should be reading? Please to tell. I want to know more!&quot;

i&#039;d say that the best way to learn more is just to read more! one of the best things about manga (and probably the reason it does great guns overseas) is how you can just dive right in. just by reading tezuka you probably know more about the history of manga than most who would self-identify as manga fans already!

and honestly if you like urasawa already, i can see him becoming one of your favourite comics authors. his current project is a retelling of tezuka&#039;s tetsuwan atom (astro boy)! and not even that nor monster is what most people would consider his best work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are there any books about the history and development of manga I should be reading? Please to tell. I want to know more!&#8221;</p>
<p>i&#8217;d say that the best way to learn more is just to read more! one of the best things about manga (and probably the reason it does great guns overseas) is how you can just dive right in. just by reading tezuka you probably know more about the history of manga than most who would self-identify as manga fans already!</p>
<p>and honestly if you like urasawa already, i can see him becoming one of your favourite comics authors. his current project is a retelling of tezuka&#8217;s tetsuwan atom (astro boy)! and not even that nor monster is what most people would consider his best work!</p>
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