While there’s Warne and McGrath there’s hope
It’s not over until it’s over.
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Roger Says:
That’s not optimism, that’s delusion. Your lads will not win.
September 12th, 2005 at 9:12 am
2. Justine Says:
If we get rid of bloody Pietersen, then mop up the tail, then score at 5 an over, we totally can too win! No wuckers.
September 12th, 2005 at 9:17 am
3. Justine Says:
And there goes Collingwood. What a great selection he was!
September 12th, 2005 at 9:18 am
woofy Says:
that does me for the day, sod the radio, time to get the tv on I say.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:17 am
jonathan Says:
it’s tea. it all comes down to the next five to seven overs. if england are all out, it’s on. if they bat more than seven overs, it’s over.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:18 am
6. Justine Says:
I have complete and utter faith.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:19 am
jonathan Says:
you may need it . i don’t want to take anything from pietersen – sure he was dropped three times – but he’s played well. but for us to win, we need it to become on day cricket. if they can get giles out quickly, or even pietersen, then we’ve got a chance. gilly may also have to find form quickly.
oh, and let’s not forget, these guys have to come home, hit the showers, and then get ready to play the rest of the world. should be good.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:23 am
8. Justine Says:
Woofy: lucky bastard with a television with live non fuzzy coverage.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:23 am
jonathan Says:
heh heh. so, turns out no-one’s got more than 260 in the fourth innnings here. if the lead passes 250 it’ll be very tough. if it’s under 250, i’ll be staying up late.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:25 am
10. Justine Says:
Not one day cricket. It needs to be Twenty20! A draw is no good to us we have to go out and out and go for the win. Losing is the same for us if we draw.
Damn, you know what I mean.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:25 am
jonathan Says:
i do. 250 in 40 overs. six per over. if they open with gilly and ponting, it could happen. assuming it doesn’t get dark. also, england may go slow with their bowling and that would be the killer. we’ll see…
September 12th, 2005 at 10:27 am
12. Justine Says:
Doesn’t matter if it gets dark. Surely they wouldn’t take the light now?!
September 12th, 2005 at 10:29 am
jonathan Says:
well, here we go. warnie has the ball. game on.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:30 am
jonathan Says:
it’s not light. when they hit the final hour, the poms only have to bowl 15 more overs. so, they go slow up to the final hour, then bowl the final 15.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:31 am
Cheryl Says:
pops in briefly – internet connection is upstairs, tv is downstairs – can’t take my eyes off the game, who knows what might happen!
September 12th, 2005 at 10:33 am
16. Justine Says:
Dastardly dastardly bastards.
You know, sometimes three wickets seems like a lot . . .
September 12th, 2005 at 10:33 am
jonathan Says:
hey cheryl! i know, it’s pretty compelling. i’m pretty happy i’ve got the hdtv card on the pc at the moment. and yes, three wickets is a lot, or nothing much. it could take an hour, or an over.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:34 am
18. Justine Says:
At least you have a tellie with the cricket on it!
September 12th, 2005 at 10:35 am
jonathan Says:
ooh, punter is risking it with lee. sheesh.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:35 am
Cheryl Says:
something to bear in mind. in a 1-day game there would be floodlights. when australia get to bat the light will be failing, there will be no lights, and they’ll be looking at flintoff and harmison at full speed.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:35 am
21. Justine Says:
He’s hoping Lee will knock Giles unconscious.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:36 am
jonathan Says:
not unconscious. just over. and yeah, it will be tough. but then, if you let things get to this stage, it’s going to be hard. this is the ashes, after all, and we won’t get ‘em back till 2006 if we lose ‘em.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:39 am
23. Justine Says:
Plus you can’t score off a bouncer.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:40 am
24. Justine Says:
I mean one that goes way over your head.
Bring Warne back on! From both ends!
September 12th, 2005 at 10:41 am
jonathan Says:
yeah, you can.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:41 am
26. Justine Says:
But not high enough to be called wide.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:42 am
27. Justine Says:
I’m starting to think that Stuart McGill might have made a diff . . . Him bowling in tandem with Warne is a combo that was very successful and not used nearly enough.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:46 am
jonathan Says:
possibly. or they could have just held their catches. no matter the result today, and i think the result is becoming more evident, there are players who got on the airplane to travel to england for this tour who won’t wear the baggy green again. it’s just a matter of how many of ‘em.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:49 am
Roger Says:
It’s over. You can’t win from here.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:49 am
Cheryl Says:
i seem to remember pietersen hooking a couple of lee bouncers for six…
mcgill might have been goood, but i would have played symmonds – plenty of bowling options, and he can bat (including in the gloom at old trafford)
September 12th, 2005 at 10:50 am
jonathan Says:
now, now roger. give it another thirty minutes, then you can say that. and never forget, this is cricket. i’ve seen sides bowled out for 27, and sides score at six an over. it’s very difficult to say you can’t win. it just becomes harder and harder.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:50 am
32. Justine Says:
I’m ignoring you, Roger.
I don’t see how Ponting can retain the captaincy. But these selectors have proved themselves very reluctant to drop anyone.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:51 am
Cheryl Says:
hmm, even rod marsh is starting to sound like he’s given up.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:53 am
34. Justine Says:
Chery: Plus Symmonds is cute.
Several kind of sort of almost didn’t quite carrys in that over . . .
September 12th, 2005 at 10:53 am
35. Justine Says:
Rod Marsh is an old grump. Plus he’s the one that trained you lot up. Bloody traitor.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:53 am
jonathan Says:
i’ve wondered why they haven’t recalled symonds. with gillespie’s career over, and wossisname the 12th man going the same way, they’ll need bowlers. i think the coach will lose his job, and likely damien martyn too.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:54 am
jonathan Says:
justine, i’d agree about punter too. he may struggle to keep the captaincy. the only thin on his side is, there’s no likely replacement.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:55 am
38. Justine Says:
No matter what we have a lock on player of the series . . . Who can they give it to but Shane Warne?
Yes to all those sackings.
i’d also give a guernsey to whathisname that bowler who’s paying for one of the counties and doing really well right now.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:56 am
Cheryl Says:
just what i was going to say. clarke may make a good captain one day, but there’s no obvious replacement in the team other than gilchrist, who is himself getting on a bit
September 12th, 2005 at 10:56 am
Cheryl Says:
and yes, symmonds is cute
September 12th, 2005 at 10:57 am
41. Justine Says:
Were it me I’d give it to Warne. Doesn’t matter how old he is. he’s by far the best cricket brain we have. So even if he’s only captain for two years. He’d reshape the side and show them what real captaincy is.
Of course, that would never happen.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:57 am
jonathan Says:
gilchrist or langer are possibilities. lee is a bowler, and his place isn’t rock solid. katich isn’t a definite either.
here’s a question. langer has said he wants to tour england next time. how long do you think warne can play on for. i could see two to five years, if he wants to.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:58 am
Cheryl Says:
shane watson is a possibility for new blood
September 12th, 2005 at 10:58 am
Cheryl Says:
warne will play as long as his body holds out. he’s practically a cyborg already
September 12th, 2005 at 10:59 am
jonathan Says:
warne may be a cricket genius, but he’s a PR basketcase. it’ll never happen because he’s not a role model.
September 12th, 2005 at 10:59 am
46. Justine Says:
Me, I reckon Warne’s got another five years easy. Remember Bobbie Holland he was a fine test bowler in his forties.
I mean Warne’s playing the best cricket of his life right now. But if he has one bad test at this age they’ll sack him like they did to Waugh. Ageist bastards.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:00 am
47. Justine Says:
That drives me insane. It’s why Keith Miller never got the captaincy despite being a superb captain of NSW. I spit at PR.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:01 am
jonathan Says:
they won’t sack warne. as long as he wants to play, and can produce the goods, he’ll play on. they have had batsmen to spare, but where are the strike bowlers. i have the feeling we may see mcgrath and warne together for at least two more years. and yeah, warne could physically play on. wonder if he will.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:01 am
jonathan Says:
i agree with you. if i wanted a moral leader, i wouldn’t look to a sportsman or a musician. but it seems to be part of the gig.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:03 am
Cheryl Says:
the radio commentators are now speculating on whether vaughan will declare to see if he can win the game
September 12th, 2005 at 11:03 am
Cheryl Says:
whee, another pietersen six!
September 12th, 2005 at 11:05 am
52. Justine Says:
If Warne were English he’d have been captain for years. Why are our cricket selectors so much more uptight then there’s?
I don’t look for moral leadership from anyone. Most of us can figure out that stuff on our own, thank you very much.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:05 am
Cheryl Says:
and another… 250 up
September 12th, 2005 at 11:06 am
jonathan Says:
i think that’s it. a 260 lead, three wickets still to get. maybe 30 overs to go, and pietersen is slogging. hats off to england, who have played so much better than any of us thought they could. whatever else may be said at home, they deserved to win, simply by playing well. and at home? let the night of the long knives begin.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:07 am
Cheryl Says:
if warne were english they’d never have let him play, believe me. they had enough trouble with tuffers.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:07 am
56. Justine Says:
Yeah they would. A bowler of his class? Yeah they would. They’ve been desperate for years.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:09 am
Cheryl Says:
ah, they’re taking warne off. game over
September 12th, 2005 at 11:10 am
jonathan Says:
so, justine, i know you’re off south of the border, and cheryl, you always seem to be on the move, but i’ll see you back here October 5 for the first of the Rest of the World games, and on October 14 for the test.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:11 am
59. Justine Says:
Oi! I haven’t conceded! We could launch an army of red ants at them! They could all trip and fall back on their stumps!
September 12th, 2005 at 11:12 am
Cheryl Says:
sounds like a date
who’s going to world fantasy? we can bore the American stupid.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:12 am
jonathan Says:
lol. if i hear that england were attacked by a might horder of spitballs, i shall know who to thank.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:13 am
Cheryl Says:
i’m sure that red ants are not legal as substitute fielders
September 12th, 2005 at 11:13 am
jonathan Says:
i think we’ll all be there, yes? i have a wedding to attend october 8, my littlest’s birthday october 14, then i’m on the plane october 24. a week in oakland, then on to wisconsin. and all during the break in the cricket.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:14 am
Cheryl Says:
i’m flying out to CA on oct 26. can’t get to madison until friday but staying ’til monday.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:16 am
65. Justine Says:
At WFC yes. Me and Scott’ll be there. But the other cricket dates I’ll be in Mexico without internet access in the house and a novel to write. So I won’t be able to join you, but feel free to use this blog. I’ll try to post something appropriate for you.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:17 am
jonathan Says:
well, i’ll be in oakland from tues oct 25 till tues 1 nov, cheryl. may or may not see you there. justine, have a great time in mexico. see you in madison (and don’t forget the galley ). now, i’m off to finish peeps, and then to bed.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:22 am
Cheryl Says:
have just been for a celebratory cup of tea. g’night jonathan. mexico sounds fun, but i can’t afford to be away from the internet for long.
September 12th, 2005 at 11:33 am
68. Justine Says:
Pietersen bowled at last . . .
September 12th, 2005 at 12:00 pm
Cheryl Says:
to quote tony grieg, “the south african selectors must be kicking themselves right now.”
September 12th, 2005 at 12:03 pm
70. Justine Says:
Yup, that was mighty retarded of ‘em.
September 12th, 2005 at 12:03 pm
Cheryl Says:
i guess they didn’t want to have a player who wears pink t-shirts and dyes his hair.
September 12th, 2005 at 12:09 pm
72. Justine Says:
Idiots. When will people stop being so destructively conservative? It doesn’t matter what a cricketer looks like. Or whether he’s unfaithful to his wife or whatever. As long as he’s really bloody good and doesn’t break the rules of cricket.
Not that I’m advocating infidelity, mind.
September 12th, 2005 at 12:13 pm
Cheryl Says:
all sports are run by stupid old men in blazers. often these are people who were middling-good professionals in their day, and who resent the celebrity status and high pay of modern players. until these idiots die off (and always assuming that the next generation don’t turn out to be just as daft) we are stuck with them.
September 12th, 2005 at 12:25 pm
74. Justine Says:
Maybe they’re the ones we should set the red ants on?
September 12th, 2005 at 12:26 pm
Cheryl Says:
now that does sound like a good idea…
September 12th, 2005 at 12:30 pm