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Gwenda links to Emily G berating people for their intensely irritating acknowledgments page and gives a fabulous list of don’ts. Now, I’m on the record as being all for acks, and I didn’t entirely agree with some of her complaints, but I sure was struck by this suggestion: I propose a straightforward film-style list of credits on the last page.

Interesting idea. So now I’m thinking of doing it for my next book, Magic Lessons. Here’s what it would look like:

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Publisher & editor: Eloise Flood

Editor & prodder: Liesa Abrams

Fellow pedant & seeker of perfection: Andy Ball

Answerer of annoying questions and all round helpful person: Margaret Wright

Designer of the beautiful interiors: Chris Grassi

Copyeditor of the Gods: Polly Watson

First Readers: John Bern, Gwenda Bond, Pamela Freeman, Carrie Frye, Margo Lanagan, Jan Larbalestier, Karen Meisner, Sally O’Brien, Ron Serdiuk, Micole Sudberg, and Lili Wilkinson.

Jilkminggan and Ngukurr memory refreshers: John Bern, Jan Larbalestier, and Kate Senior

Fashion consultant: Janet Irving

Provider of space in which to write: Allen Haroothunian (Sydney) and Drink Me café (New York)

Supportive family: John Bern, Niki Bern, Jan Larbalestier, and Scott Westerfeld

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What do you reckon? Is that preferable to this:

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I’m very lucky to have such smart, incisive, hardworking editors as Liesa Abrams and Eloise Flood. Thank you. Thanks also to Andy Ball, Chris Grassi, Polly Watson, and Margaret Wright.

My first readers are eagle-eyed and amazing. Thank you, John Bern, Gwenda Bond, Pamela Freeman, Carrie Frye, Margo Lanagan, Jan Larbalestier, Karen Meisner, Sally O’Brien, Ron Serdiuk, Micole Sudberg, and Lili Wilkinson.

Thanks to John Bern, Jan Larbalestier, and Kate Senior for refreshing my memories of Jilkminggan and Ngukurr.

Janet Irving answered all my questions about fashion and fabrics. (If I still managed to get it wrong, blame me.)

Allen Haroothunian let me use his home in Camperdown (Sydney) to finish the first draft and the first round of rewrites. Much appreciated. Large chunks of the first draft were also written at Drink Me café (New York).

Lastly, to John Bern, Niki Bern, Jan Larbalestier, and Scott Westerfeld: you four make everything easier and more fun. Here’s to more good food and wine together.

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Which is less annoying? Record your vote in the comments.

Posted by Justine at 17:03, 21 July 2005 under Bloggery, Magic or Madness trilogy, Publishing business, Writing life | 25 Comments »

Comments

  1. scott Says:

    I’m for door number 2. Call me old fashioned, but I like complete sentences. Plus, more information in the second one, so it tends to read less cryptic/insider jokey.

    July 21st, 2005 at 5:06 pm

  2. JeremyT Says:

    I’d prefer the second also. If there’s one place where I don’t mind reading, it’s inside a book, and there’s a more personal touch to number 2.

    July 21st, 2005 at 5:22 pm

  3. 3. Justine Says:

    One of my editors just weighed in for number two as well.

    July 21st, 2005 at 5:27 pm

  4. claire Says:

    i never read acks unless i have a crush on the writer, in which case i want as much personal information as possible. so i guess i’d vote for #2. of course, i’ve already received an offer of marriage from you, so i feel i’m already in the in crowd. so if you went with #1, i’d expect you to list me under “offers of marriage conditionally refused during editing process.”

    July 21st, 2005 at 6:29 pm

  5. Barry Says:

    Number two, hands down! I guess I can see Emily G.’s point on the one hand, but to me it just feels petty. Actors get millions of opportunities to spout off their gratitude to any and all influnces; most authors never get another opportunity beyond their acknowledgements page. And you know, no one’s making anyone read it in the first place. Personally, I love the “insider” feel the ack page gives me.

    July 21st, 2005 at 6:32 pm

  6. gwenda Says:

    Yeah, I like two too. What I loved best about Emily G’s column was the idea of critiquing acknowledgements and I must, sort of shamefully, admit that it was one of my favorite catty reviews ever. I’d far rather read catty reviews of acknowledgements than books.

    July 21st, 2005 at 9:29 pm

  7. Patrick Nielsen Hayden Says:

    Neither. Publish the book. Include a gnomic dedication if you must.

    Late in life, publish a tell-all memoir of such flamboyant magnificence that it eclipses all your work thus far.

    July 21st, 2005 at 10:22 pm

  8. Ray Davis Says:

    Whatever the author feels like is OK with me.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 1:44 am

  9. Ray Davis Says:

    But no one will ever beat Kyle Baker’s “This book is dedicated to whoever I’m going out with now.”

    July 22nd, 2005 at 1:52 am

  10. marrije Says:

    Second option, definitely. But you’re sane and funny, not the um, slightly insane person emily g refers to. On second thought, even in that case i’d like an acknowledgements page in the second, wordy style. makes the insanity shine much more beautifully.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 4:04 am

  11. Richard B. Says:

    Option Number Two is the clear winner. It’s elementary, my dear, as we used to say back on Multiplication Rock.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 4:54 am

  12. jonathan Says:

    you’re way better than me. i’m just struggling to be sure that i don’t forget anyone. i don’t know how much they care, but i want to acknowledge people. i’ve not written a novel, but there are a bugger of a lot of people who help with an anthology.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 5:15 am

  13. Stephanie Burgis Says:

    I definitely vote for #2 — it’s personable, fun, and sucks me into the book right away. (Jennifer Crusie does that really well with her acknowledgements pages–they’re friendly, likable and fun to read even if you don’t know any of the people she’s talking about.)

    July 22nd, 2005 at 8:18 am

  14. the eagle-eyed and amazing micole Says:

    I do not feel that the first option properly conveys the magnificence of the people being thanked.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 9:34 am

  15. David Moles Says:

    If you do go with #1, you have to make up some obscure literary jobs with wacky names — you know, the equivalent of “key grip,” “gaffer,” and “best boy.”

    I also like Patrick’s tell-all memoir idea.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 11:27 am

  16. Lauren McLaughlin Says:

    I’m taking the minority opinion and going with option #1. Short, to the point, no extraneous linking words.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 12:08 pm

  17. Janni Says:

    Either works for me, too. The first wasn’t a turnoff at all, at any rate.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 12:34 pm

  18. Jenny D Says:

    In itself, I also actually like the first one better. But there’s much to be said for sticking with the usual format–it risks being a bit cutesy otherwise, I think. (But I wish everyone would switch to a credits-type listing…)

    July 22nd, 2005 at 12:40 pm

  19. shelly rae Says:

    Definitely option two. It’s more personal–a real thank you as opposed to a list of credits.
    Anon,

    July 22nd, 2005 at 12:48 pm

  20. John Scalzi Says:

    Number 2. Sentences complete good are.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 2:05 pm

  21. Kathryn Cramer Says:

    I feel so naive. I thought acknowledgments were for finding out who really wrote ghost-written books.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 7:00 pm

  22. parker Says:

    number 2. no question. and i’m all for an eggers style imprint page too.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 8:48 pm

  23. lewis Says:

    I don’t like acks but if you must have one then let it be funny and
    obnoxious:
    I’d like to thank my father and mother: the latter for giving birth to
    me after the former had his way with her, when both were drunk, on a
    dark and stormy night. I’d also like to thank my first grade teacher,
    Miss Campbell, for reading stories to me. If not for her, I would never
    have become a professional scribbler.

    July 22nd, 2005 at 11:37 pm

  24. Tom Whitmore Says:

    Since you didn’t fall into any of the excesses which Emily rails against, I prefer 2. It takes someone Really Good to manage humor in an acknowledgements page, like Sol Weinstein in the Oy Oy Seven books (over-the-top sexist humorous Jewish parodies of James Bond from the 60s/early 70s).

    August 8th, 2005 at 12:17 pm

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